With the correct project refactorings that simplify some of the annoying issues of Tapestry (its abuse of abstract classes, some counterintuitive idioms like lazy initialization for properties and the event system order - IMO) I think Tapestry could be the next Hibernate.

Unlike Hibernate (which I use since 2002 - when it was a small project and Gavin didn't have his head full of JBoss air), Web frameworks have intense competition, including JSF. But, I think, if this is managed properly then it can happen all over again, a bloated standard getting beaten by a working framework.

So, IMO, Tapestry has a great future ahead!! Again, to the committers: please focus on cleaning up, documenting things properly, and giving an overall "polished" feel to the framework (which it still lacks a bit). That's easy to do and will calm the concerns of people like Lennart, I think.

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Ing. Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi
DTQ Software


Lennart Benoot wrote:
Hi Howard and all,

Honestly speaking, this is a strange mail.
Should the tapestry community get their instructions/hints before leaving their 
mailing list and venture the wide world on theserverside?
I don't think so. Anyway, doesn't really matter. I think instead, effort should put into making tapestry more attractive. As I allready mentioned a few times, tapestry is attractive from a technology point of view.
Looking at other domains, tapestry has a long road to walk. I have the 
impression that nobody isn't really putting effort into it. Given the fact that 
we are feeling the hot breath of other technologies such as jsf, this starts to 
bother me. I'm am investing a lot into this technology and I wouldn't want it 
to become a marginal framework used by die hard fans only.

What do you guys think about it?

Regards,
Lennart







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