Hi,

I know this has been discussed before, but only briefly. I have two arguments 
that I'd like to bring forward towards removing RTP (/RTCP) from 
draft-ietf-taps-transports-04 and the documents that will follow it. I 
understand that it's a non-obvious question whether RTP should be considered a 
transport protocol or not, and I don't want to take a side in this or step on 
anyone's toes here - these are more practical, pragmatic considerations, and 
I'd just like to see how people react. If folks go crazy in response to this I 
won't keep arguing, but I'd be happy if I'd see some agreement:

Argument #1: RTP implementations need to be tied closer to the application than 
the implementation of transport such as TCP, DCCP, SCTP. There is usually a 
very tight interaction with the codec and RTP - a reaction to one specific 
incoming RTCP message, for instance. So I'd rather see a future TAPS system 
being *used* by RTP instead of *providing* RTP functionality.

Argument #2: TAPS has a non-negligible risk of ending up as an academic 
exercise. I understand that but I don't want that - I think we should do our 
best to keep TAPS "real". If that is our goal, including the world's largest 
protocol isn't perhaps ideal... I think it should be in our interest to try to 
keep the list in draft-ietf-taps-transports-04.txt reasonably contained.

Cheers,
Michael

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