> On 03 Jun 2015, at 16:48, [email protected] wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I know this has been discussed before, but only briefly. I have two
>> arguments that I'd like to bring forward towards removing RTP (/RTCP) from
>> draft-ietf-taps-transports-04 and the documents that will follow it. I
>> understand that it's a non-obvious question whether RTP should be
>> considered a transport protocol or not, and I don't want to take a side in
>> this or step on anyone's toes here - these are more practical, pragmatic
>> considerations, and I'd just like to see how people react. If folks go
>> crazy in response to this I won't keep arguing, but I'd be happy if I'd
>> see some agreement:
>> 
>> Argument #1: RTP implementations need to be tied closer to the application
>> than the implementation of transport such as TCP, DCCP, SCTP. There is
>> usually a very tight interaction with the codec and RTP - a reaction to
>> one specific incoming RTCP message, for instance. So I'd rather see a
>> future TAPS system being *used* by RTP instead of *providing* RTP
>> functionality.
>> 
> I think the same.

+1

> 
>> Argument #2: TAPS has a non-negligible risk of ending up as an academic
>> exercise. I understand that but I don't want that - I think we should do
>> our best to keep TAPS "real". If that is our goal, including the world's
>> largest protocol isn't perhaps ideal... I think it should be in our
>> interest to try to keep the list in draft-ietf-taps-transports-04.txt
>> reasonably contained.
>> 
> I'd prefer the document not to ignore RTP - but to say enough, so that
> people can read further should this wish. If the above is correct, then I
> think perhaps this document can cover this in the introduction, along with
> a mention perhaps of other framing or content-oriented protocols that can
> use transports.

Agree as well. If we completely ignore RTP, it will be conspicuous in its 
absence.

I'd suggest a bit of tombstone text in the RTP section that explains the 
rationale behind not really digging into RTP for components/features... I can 
put together something (based more or less on this message) for the -05 rev I'm 
working on...

Cheers,

Brian

>> Cheers,
>> Michael
>> 
> Gorry
> 
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