I can lead the discussion around implementation issues, as Anna will be remote.

Best,
Tommy

> On Nov 6, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Aaron Falk <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Brian.
> 
> We need discussion leads for -architecture, -implementation, and -security.
> 
> --aaron
> 
> On 5 Nov 2019, at 0:58, Brian Trammell (IETF) wrote:
> 
> I can do the issue scrub for -interface.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 5 Nov 2019, at 00:09, Aaron Falk <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> Draft agenda based on what I’ve heard. Putting the security draft last as 
>> I’m uncertain at this point whether the discussion will converge. Also, 
>> rather than Philipp’s list of topics, I suggest someone should scrub the 
>> open issues. Who should drive the discussion? Other comments?
>> 
>> Administrivia (10m) - Chairs
>> Issue review for (50m)
>> draft-ietf-taps-architecture-05 
>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-taps-arch-05>
>> draft-ietf-taps-interface-05 
>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-taps-interface-05>
>> draft-ietf-taps-implementation-05 
>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-taps-impl-05>
>> IETF last call comments on draft-ietf-taps-security-09 
>> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-taps-transport-security-09> (30m)
>> Ref [from Ekr 
>> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/taps/R4zjHu8FN7A_3Lvs4TOyuF7kvL8>] 
>> [from Christian 
>> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/saag/43g1LfmbbL1F5BoUHTwyOleHJU0#>]
>> What are our next steps?
>> --aaron
>> 
>> On 4 Nov 2019, at 16:26, Brian Trammell (IETF) wrote:
>> 
>> hi Philipp, all,
>> 
>> parachuting-into-the-thread comments inline below.
>> 
>> On 4 Nov 2019, at 21:36, Philipp S. Tiesel <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> AVE!
>> Philipp S. Tiesel
>> 
>> --
>> Philipp S. Tiesel
>> https://philipp.tiesel.net/ <https://philipp.tiesel.net/>
>> On 4. Nov 2019, at 19:18, Kyle Rose <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Evidently, the transport security document.
>> 
>> Yes, we need to discuss next steps there. I still hope there will be some 
>> discussion
>> on the list this and next week so we do not need to spend too much precious 
>> face time
>> with this issue.
>> 
>> I also see the state of the three other documents as agenda Items:
>> - Architecture
>> - Should be nearly finished, but for those you have not read one of the last 
>> two versions,
>> please do so and give feedback!
>> 
>> IIRC we'd said we wanted to hold this until at least interface was done. But 
>> yes, please read this :) (I should re-read, actually).
>> 
>> - Interface
>> 
>> I think you've identified the three pending discussions correctly on this 
>> doc...
>> 
>> - Framers
>> 
>> I need to dig into this a bit (and hope to before Singapore, but I also 
>> hoped to have cycles before the interim that didn't happen so MMMV) but I'm 
>> a lot happier with the general arrangement in -05 with the bulk of the 
>> framer detail in -impl.
>> 
>> - Errors
>> 
>> I continue to think that something along the lines of the present 
>> underspecification is not wrong here. But we should probably have more text 
>> about the shape of that underspecification.
>> 
>> - Multicast
>> 
>> ...continues to be the swamp into which all transport efforts wade and 
>> subsequently get eaten by rodents of unusual size. :)
>> 
>> Practically speaking, this boils down to two issues AFAICT:
>> 
>> - We have https://github.com/ietf-tapswg/api-drafts/issues/303 
>> <https://github.com/ietf-tapswg/api-drafts/issues/303> on multicast 
>> transport properties. This is marked Ready For Text and assigned to tfpauly, 
>> so I'm inclined to let Tommy write some text here (or assign someone else if 
>> they'd like to take a crack at it).
>> 
>> - We have https://github.com/ietf-tapswg/api-drafts/issues/150 
>> <https://github.com/ietf-tapswg/api-drafts/issues/150> which has a long and 
>> varied history which you should go read if you're not familiar with it (or 
>> if, like me, you'd forgotten it):
>> 
>> - dup'd to https://github.com/ietf-tapswg/api-drafts/issues/170 
>> <https://github.com/ietf-tapswg/api-drafts/issues/170>, which was closed by 
>> PR on 6 Jun 2018
>> - reopened to explictly address multicast interaction, languished without 
>> discussion for six months
>> - tagged ready for text in January with an assigned volunteer (Jake) but no 
>> discussion or guidance otherwise
>> 
>> I propose we come to a decision on this in Singapore: commit to text soon 
>> (end 2019) or ship without.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> - Implementation
>> - Are we satisfied with the structure
>> - Proxies/Tor/etc…
>> - Multicast
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 8:33 AM Aaron Falk <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Ok, gang, what should we discuss in Singapore?
>> 
>> --aaron
>> 
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