If none of the authors wants to moderate -security, I can do that.
 
AVE!
   Philipp S. Tiesel

> On 7. Nov 2019, at 16:48, Aaron Falk <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Tommy.
> 
> Who will talk about -architecture & -security?
> 
> --aaron
> 
> On 6 Nov 2019, at 19:53, Tommy Pauly wrote:
> 
> I can lead the discussion around implementation issues, as Anna will be 
> remote.
> 
> Best,
> Tommy
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Aaron Falk <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Brian.
>> 
>> We need discussion leads for -architecture, -implementation, and -security.
>> 
>> --aaron
>> 
>> On 5 Nov 2019, at 0:58, Brian Trammell (IETF) wrote:
>> 
>> I can do the issue scrub for -interface.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 5 Nov 2019, at 00:09, Aaron Falk <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Draft agenda based on what I’ve heard. Putting the security draft last as 
>>> I’m uncertain at this point whether the discussion will converge. Also, 
>>> rather than Philipp’s list of topics, I suggest someone should scrub the 
>>> open issues. Who should drive the discussion? Other comments?
>>> 
>>> Administrivia (10m) - Chairs
>>> Issue review for (50m)
>>> draft-ietf-taps-architecture-05 
>>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-taps-arch-05>
>>> draft-ietf-taps-interface-05 
>>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-taps-interface-05>
>>> draft-ietf-taps-implementation-05 
>>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-taps-impl-05>
>>> IETF last call comments on draft-ietf-taps-security-09 
>>> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-taps-transport-security-09> (30m)
>>> Ref [from Ekr 
>>> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/taps/R4zjHu8FN7A_3Lvs4TOyuF7kvL8>] 
>>> [from Christian 
>>> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/saag/43g1LfmbbL1F5BoUHTwyOleHJU0#>]
>>> What are our next steps?
>>> --aaron
>>> 
>>> On 4 Nov 2019, at 16:26, Brian Trammell (IETF) wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi Philipp, all,
>>> 
>>> parachuting-into-the-thread comments inline below.
>>> 
>>> On 4 Nov 2019, at 21:36, Philipp S. Tiesel <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> AVE!
>>> Philipp S. Tiesel
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Philipp S. Tiesel
>>> https://philipp.tiesel.net/ <https://philipp.tiesel.net/>
>>> On 4. Nov 2019, at 19:18, Kyle Rose <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Evidently, the transport security document.
>>> 
>>> Yes, we need to discuss next steps there. I still hope there will be some 
>>> discussion
>>> on the list this and next week so we do not need to spend too much precious 
>>> face time
>>> with this issue.
>>> 
>>> I also see the state of the three other documents as agenda Items:
>>> - Architecture
>>> - Should be nearly finished, but for those you have not read one of the 
>>> last two versions,
>>> please do so and give feedback!
>>> 
>>> IIRC we'd said we wanted to hold this until at least interface was done. 
>>> But yes, please read this :) (I should re-read, actually).
>>> 
>>> - Interface
>>> 
>>> I think you've identified the three pending discussions correctly on this 
>>> doc...
>>> 
>>> - Framers
>>> 
>>> I need to dig into this a bit (and hope to before Singapore, but I also 
>>> hoped to have cycles before the interim that didn't happen so MMMV) but I'm 
>>> a lot happier with the general arrangement in -05 with the bulk of the 
>>> framer detail in -impl.
>>> 
>>> - Errors
>>> 
>>> I continue to think that something along the lines of the present 
>>> underspecification is not wrong here. But we should probably have more text 
>>> about the shape of that underspecification.
>>> 
>>> - Multicast
>>> 
>>> ...continues to be the swamp into which all transport efforts wade and 
>>> subsequently get eaten by rodents of unusual size. :)
>>> 
>>> Practically speaking, this boils down to two issues AFAICT:
>>> 
>>> - We have https://github.com/ietf-tapswg/api-drafts/issues/303 
>>> <https://github.com/ietf-tapswg/api-drafts/issues/303> on multicast 
>>> transport properties. This is marked Ready For Text and assigned to 
>>> tfpauly, so I'm inclined to let Tommy write some text here (or assign 
>>> someone else if they'd like to take a crack at it).
>>> 
>>> - We have https://github.com/ietf-tapswg/api-drafts/issues/150 
>>> <https://github.com/ietf-tapswg/api-drafts/issues/150> which has a long and 
>>> varied history which you should go read if you're not familiar with it (or 
>>> if, like me, you'd forgotten it):
>>> 
>>> - dup'd to https://github.com/ietf-tapswg/api-drafts/issues/170 
>>> <https://github.com/ietf-tapswg/api-drafts/issues/170>, which was closed by 
>>> PR on 6 Jun 2018
>>> - reopened to explictly address multicast interaction, languished without 
>>> discussion for six months
>>> - tagged ready for text in January with an assigned volunteer (Jake) but no 
>>> discussion or guidance otherwise
>>> 
>>> I propose we come to a decision on this in Singapore: commit to text soon 
>>> (end 2019) or ship without.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> - Implementation
>>> - Are we satisfied with the structure
>>> - Proxies/Tor/etc…
>>> - Multicast
>>> 
--  
Philipp S. Tiesel
https://philipp.tiesel.net/


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