Some years ago, '96. or so, I saw Tater play with the Sullivans in Portland, 
Or. Lucky for me, I was in the center of the front row, I could hear the 
mandolin just fine. However, seems the monitors were so hot on the mandolin 
that Mike was staying two feet away from the mic, backing off and he still 
thought he was too loud. Well, nothing was coming out in the house from the 
mando, lot's of banjo and Sullivans, no Mike. The main reason I like a single 
mic and no monitors, takes the sound man out of the mix, more than half the 
time a good thing. I've learned how to EQ for a single mic and convince the 
sound man to leave it alone if he wants to live. 



Clyde Clevenger 
Just My Opinion, But It's Right 
Salem, Oregon 
Old Circle 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robin Gravina" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 2:02:59 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: To stand, or not?? 

I don't like the tuna on, but if the tuning goes off during the gig, then a 
quick check is a good thing, but I don't really want to know if one of the 
strings goes a little off - just if it bothers me. I was desperate for monitors 
until recently, when the house sound was good and we finally had a monitor - 
the mando sounded like a bag of tools being dumped on the floor and I couldn't 
hear the bass strings of the guitar enough to play happily, although apparently 
all was well on the audience side. I think a lot of this stuff comes from using 
electric rules for acoustic music, as the superb post about doing sound said a 
while ago. 





On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Topher Gayle < [email protected] > wrote: 


Ideally, I like to have the tuner close to hand, but not on the headstock. But 
if there isn't anywhere good to put it, I'll leave it on. This isn't for 
prettiness. The things rattle. Now there are places where it's so noisy you'll 
never hear the rattle. For examples: 

The pizza place. It can be so noisy there that without monitors I can't hear 
myself, much less the fiddle player standing 6 feet away. 

Likewise at many contra dances, when the dancers are stomping (after the beat, 
usually, thanks to the speed of sound) and the caller is calling, and we're 
playing in a really echoic gym, monitors are the difference between playing and 
not playing. 

When the sound is perfect and the audience attentive, yes I really want the 
tuner off, if possible. That's not usual, for me. 

Topher 






On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:48 AM, < [email protected] > wrote: 




There was a time when I could tune all my instruments by ear, just pull an A 
out of the air and tune to that. 
Well, 4 years of riding in helicopters with no doors, 6 years as a Blacksmith 
and twenty years operating heavy equipment I don't hear the overtones anymore, 
I need my tuner, on the headstock, all the time, it's the lesser of two evils. 



Clyde Clevenger 
Just My Opinion, But It's Right 
Salem, Oregon 
Old Circle 





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Hedding" < [email protected] > 
To: "Taterbugmando" < [email protected] > 
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 10:02:05 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: To stand, or not?? 



As I was recently seen in a compromising photo on the front page of a 
Wisconsin paper with my tuner on my headstock I feel the need to come 
out and say what's the big deal? 

For me it's not ideal I'll give you that but it's the lesser of two 
evils, to me it looks even more silly to be reaching in to my pocket 
and fiddling around after and many times during the middle of the 
songs. Granted, maybe I need to lighten my touch a little on the 
strings but hey I just want to be noticed I guess. 

Hopefully I'll just be able to tune by ear someday and everyone will 
be better off. 

Mike 














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