well put Topher, makes sense to me...



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From: Topher Gayle <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 2:59:13 PM
Subject: Re: Alex playng Old Time

Last summer at the CBA music camp, I attended a workshop from a guy
who seemed to have studied OT & bluegrass music quite thoroughly. I
forget his name. He did seem to know his stuff, and brought along
recordings, and had interesting references and personal stories from
his discussions with the old-timers and so on. And he played both
types of music professionally. So I felt his opinions were worth
listening to.

His main theme was that Old-time music was primarily music for dancing
to and for participating in, and that bluegrass was primarily a
musical form that showcased the musicians in a concert setting.  Both
styles of music derived from similar, though not identical, roots.
Mainly the stylistic differences evolved from the differences in the
performance setting and purpose.

I mention this now because I think it may shed a little light on the
discussions here lately. The comments that young folks often just jam
as many notes into a period of time is certainly something I've seen,
too. But some commentators here were I think comparing the musical
content of those kids' flashy playing to Old-time playing, and I think
that's a little bit apples to oranges. Here's why I say this:

If bluegrass is mainly a concert performance art (and I accept that),
then the highlighting of individual performers is a significant part
of the show. And flashiness certainly pleases the crowds. I've seen it
over and over (and no, I can't do it myself, and yes, that's a little
bit sour grapes). So when a young performer with amazing chops get big
applause for playing zillions of fast notes, you can bet he's gonna do
it again. Showmanship is the name of the game - that's why the bands
wear dark suits or matching tie-dye overalls or whatever.

In old-time, as it's evolved, the goals of the group are melody, and
drive, and can't-keep-your-feet still dance rhythm. Typically no
performer is highlighted. As a member of a contra dance band, I know
this is mighty fun to do. (And whether you play the right notes or
chords or not is not as important as getting the toes tapping - I like
that!) Old time bands often carefully dress in unmatched overalls.
(joking, joking)

I just thought I'd add these ideas to the conversation - they make
sense to me. What do you think?

Topher


On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Mark Seale <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes it has.  The difference, IMO, is that the OT music purveyors hold much
> more tightly to playing it in its original form.  In fact, they get down
> right offended if you take one of their beloved standards and do much with
> it.  While some musicians find that limiting, it does, by its very nature,
> preserve the music in close to its original intent.
>
> M
>
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Don <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> What about the culture that gave rise to OT music? Hasn't it also faded?
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