On 24 July 2018 at 20:43 [email protected] wrote and made these points
... <snip> >> The X-Sender is not a useful indication as it can not be seen in >> message list header. ... <snip> TBB> The FROM address is meant to be the actual author of the text TBB> being sent, or who has composed it. TBB> The recent change puts this on the head and presents the TBB> technical agent sending out, the mailing list processor, as the TBB> author. This is fraud, swindle, imposture, this is criminal. I agree. TBB> Let me cite from the RFC on Internet mail (Section 3.6.2. TBB> Originator Fields, of RFC 5322 ) TBB> The "From:" field specifies the author(s) of the message,?? TBB> that is, the mailbox(es) of the person(s) or system(s) TBB> responsible?? for the writing of the message. TBB> The "Sender:" field specifies the?? mailbox of the agent TBB> responsible for the actual transmission of the?? message. So how did the authors of the DMARC spec get away with putting in validation conditions that complete violate RFC when it comes to mailing list operation? ... <snip> TBB> This latest change to suppress the author and to cheat the TBB> reader by the fraudulent pretense that the sender is the actual TBB> author has to be reverted immediately. I am getting close to doing so... My server does DKIM validation and list messages do not get flagged. TBB> Anybody who is operating a mailing list or even programming TBB> and selling (!) a mailing program should know that this grave TBB> violation of the basic rule for Internet mail must not occur in any case. ... <snip> TBB> And I want to remind the Ritlabs people that they still need TBB> to repair the suppression of the Authors in various mailing list TBB> systems, notably in Yahoo Groups, what I had pointed out to them TBB> many months earlier, and it TheBat is still fraudulently cheating TBB> me about the author of those mails. I'm not sure what you mean here. I'm not seeing anything amiss (other than everything about this current config change, which seems completely wrong to me. I have asked the server admin if there's anything he can do about upgrading the Mailman to a more recent release, better suited to be used like this without making such an almighty mess. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v8.5.8.2 (ALPHA) on Windows ORG="E-mailaholics International"10.0.17134
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