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Wednesday, September 03, 2003
7:00:16 AM (GMT -05:00)
RE: "Mod: Moderator's comment (was: **SPAM** Re: Released!)"

Greetings MikeD,

On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 5:00:09 PM, you wrote:

MikeD> You Spampal (SpamAssasin, Spamcop, etc.) guys trot that same
MikeD> recommendation out every time someone mentions the anti-spam plugins.
MikeD> If you like all your solution, fine, enjoy. But if that was what we
MikeD> wanted, we would have asked for that, not help with the Bayesit (or
MikeD> one of the other) plugin(s).  While it is nice that you want to offer
MikeD> help, I suspect that we have all seen that "suggestion" before <g>

Therein lies the keyword; "recommendation". I, myself, am not an "any
product" guy, spokesman for any application developer nor one to
criticize another's use of another product. In all my time on these
lists not once have I done so nor will I.

MikeD> Some of us are looking for a different solution ... including the
MikeD> developers (who thought it was important enough to create the API for
MikeD> the plugins) ... Including the plugin developers (who thought it was
MikeD> important enough to go through the effort to develop the plugins).

I have tried them all at one time or another and being as I run my own
mail server I layer Spampal between my mail server and The_Bat!. I use
it because it works and the newest version, v1.5 with a few added
plugins, meets my end goal.

MikeD> In particular, Spampal (et. al.) might not be appropriate because ...

MikeD> ... Spampal (last time I checked) could not connect to all email
MikeD> servers.  Mine uses NTLM authentication, for example, which is the main
MikeD> reason I use TB (*big* thanks for that one guys) ...

I connect to only one mail server. Mine.

MikeD> ... some of us don't want the headache/resource drain of yet another
MikeD> service running ...

While any layer of spam detection is operational there will be the
headache of configuration and a CPU/memory/resource drain. Same with
any application or service under the Win32 platform. No way around it.
No CPU cycles, no mapped real or virtual memory location and no
request of resource region and it won't run. Simple. Your point?

BTW, Spampal does not run as a service. It runs as a startup app and
does not trigger until mail is requested through The_Bat! to the mail
server.

MikeD> ... some of us prefer to have all of our email "stuff" in one
MikeD> place/package.

As I would too with the target goal in mind of accomplishing what I
require with the greatest of ease.

MikeD> Take your pick.  I happen to see all three items as important and I am
MikeD> looking forward to getting the Bayesit plug in up an running once I get
MikeD> moved over to a registered copy of version 2 (and figure out how to
MikeD> get it working <wink>)

Good luck in your endeavor and when you have BayesIt functioning as
you desire then you too can help and recommend.

Anyway ...

- --
Regards,
 DG Raftery Sr.

If blind people wear sunglasses, why don't deaf people wear earmuffs?

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