Dear John, @26-Mar-2004, 10:02 -0500 (26-Mar 15:02 UK time) John [JH] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:
JH> ... Your assurance they are 'safe' is valid for you. Not really. MDP>>>> Have you looked at the archives? There is zero address MDP>>>> exposure on our lists. ... <snip> JH> I find this pretty weak evidence of 'zero presence' from mail JH> archive. JH> <form METHOD="POST" ACTION="/cgi-bin/Nomailto.pl"> JH> <input TYPE="HIDDEN" NAME="user" VALUE="marck"> JH> <input TYPE="HIDDEN" NAME="host" VALUE="silverstones.com"> JH> <input TYPE="HIDDEN" NAME="subject" VALUE="Archive expiry test"> JH> <input TYPE="HIDDEN" NAME="msgid" VALUE="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"> JH> Reply via email to<br> JH> <input TYPE="SUBMIT" VALUE=" Marck D Pearlstone "> 1) That is an indirect exposure 2) It only appears in a one-off response form 3) It only ever provides access to a single email address at a time 4) that puts it beyond the reach of any kind of spam harvest. Zero exposure. From spam harvesters - that's the context. If you want complete anonymity, don't ever post anything anywhere with anything but spoof identities. JH> GMane is better but would only take time and motivation to JH> circumvent or render it's protection useless. At least until JH> GMane kicks in their contingency plan, if any. JH> Which leads to the agility of the archive maintainers. Once JH> someone breaks or circumvents the protection how responsive will JH> these archives be? I am absolutely confident in my opinion that the encryption will not be broken. I am certain that nobody will bother. There is so little point in doing so. I am more than satisfied that their encryption is more than strong enough to deter anyone interested in address harvesting. MDP>> You may get spammed from writing to this list but *never* MDP>> because someone got your address from any of the list MDP>> archives. Like I said, the only loophole is in Message IDs, MDP>> but we have a published workaround for that. They'd have to MDP>> harvest your address by being on this list. JH> Never is a long time... That's right - it is! We're talking spamming - mass mailing. Not having your address revealed to someone determined to write to you privately without solicitation. JH> I assume the responsibility of potential spam from the mailing JH> list. However I don't feel like passing that responsibility out JH> further. Yes, but we, as administrators, have the responsibility of ensuring that our users privacy is maintained. I am satisfied that we have achieved that and I am happy to endorse this fact to all. Anyway, this is all about opinion. Yours is that the archives are not safe from harvesters. Mine is the opposite. That they are completely safe and will remain so. Also, as a list administrator I have a duty to reassure other readers that there is no need to panic. Because there is no need. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 '
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