Hello Paul,

Sunday, April 4, 2004, 10:12:54 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

GS>> IMHO the above is Stefan asking which is why the discussion exists.

PC> good point, I'll go back to trying to figure out what to do with these
PC> virtual folders ;) I can't comment on them, because I haven't figured
PC> out a good way to use them. Since I already use the ticker with folders
PC> as a column, sort all my messages by filters into folders, I'm not sure
PC> I understand what I could do with a virtual folder or view.

I to had to think about it. My thoughts to date for use of VFs are as
follows:

1  Save searches where I am relatively certain the results are going to
   needed in the future.

2  To provide a thread or discussion when participants' messages are
   already filtered to different folders. Actually it was Januk who
   jogged my thinking here in our prior discussion.

   For example I recently completed course work at the local university.
   I had a separate filter and folder for the professor, and one for the
   group that I belonged in for the course. Many times conversations
   would occur between myself and the professor which really dealt with
   group work. It would have been nice to be able to collect all of
   these threads on one subject matter in one folder. The problem here
   is how to do it automatically because sometime a person replying did
   not reply to all. This is where being able to create a pointer
   through a manual process would be nice because it is difficult to
   control behavior of all participants in a discussion to capture
   automatically through a filter of some kind. I think it is here is
   where some lack of consistency exists. Do you allow a single message
   to be moved to the VF so now it is not completely virtual since an
   actual message exists in the VF, or do you provide an alternative
   type move where you are just creating a pointer without actually
   moving the message. I think some lack of consistency exists on how
   this move is done. Januk suggested dragging and dropping which I
   think is Ok as long the user knows whether they are creating a
   pointer or actually moving the message.

   I think the confusion on the "hybrid" folder is the definition.  Is
   the "hybrid" defined as a folder which allows both virtual messages
   and ACTUAL messages, or is the "hybrid" folder the virtual messages
   created by an automatic action (i.e. filter) and additional manually
   added messages which are POINTERS to the ACTUAL INDIVIDUAL MESSAGES.

   The above is where I thought about redundancy as it pertains to the
   "hybrid" folder. If the hybrid stores just pointers which are created
   automatically and manually. You have a form of redundancy in the fact
   you have to set up pointers on the manually added messages. It is
   here where having the ability to store messages would eliminate
   redundancy on the manually added messages. Now thinking about it out
   loud VFs by their nature are redundant because you have both the
   message in the actual folder and the pointers  to create the VFs.

   It is one the manual messages where I think ideals need to be
   discussed.

HTH!

-- 
Best Regards,
Greg Strong   

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