Hello Paul, Sunday, April 4, 2004, 10:12:54 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
GS>> IMHO the above is Stefan asking which is why the discussion exists. PC> good point, I'll go back to trying to figure out what to do with these PC> virtual folders ;) I can't comment on them, because I haven't figured PC> out a good way to use them. Since I already use the ticker with folders PC> as a column, sort all my messages by filters into folders, I'm not sure PC> I understand what I could do with a virtual folder or view. I to had to think about it. My thoughts to date for use of VFs are as follows: 1 Save searches where I am relatively certain the results are going to needed in the future. 2 To provide a thread or discussion when participants' messages are already filtered to different folders. Actually it was Januk who jogged my thinking here in our prior discussion. For example I recently completed course work at the local university. I had a separate filter and folder for the professor, and one for the group that I belonged in for the course. Many times conversations would occur between myself and the professor which really dealt with group work. It would have been nice to be able to collect all of these threads on one subject matter in one folder. The problem here is how to do it automatically because sometime a person replying did not reply to all. This is where being able to create a pointer through a manual process would be nice because it is difficult to control behavior of all participants in a discussion to capture automatically through a filter of some kind. I think it is here is where some lack of consistency exists. Do you allow a single message to be moved to the VF so now it is not completely virtual since an actual message exists in the VF, or do you provide an alternative type move where you are just creating a pointer without actually moving the message. I think some lack of consistency exists on how this move is done. Januk suggested dragging and dropping which I think is Ok as long the user knows whether they are creating a pointer or actually moving the message. I think the confusion on the "hybrid" folder is the definition. Is the "hybrid" defined as a folder which allows both virtual messages and ACTUAL messages, or is the "hybrid" folder the virtual messages created by an automatic action (i.e. filter) and additional manually added messages which are POINTERS to the ACTUAL INDIVIDUAL MESSAGES. The above is where I thought about redundancy as it pertains to the "hybrid" folder. If the hybrid stores just pointers which are created automatically and manually. You have a form of redundancy in the fact you have to set up pointers on the manually added messages. It is here where having the ability to store messages would eliminate redundancy on the manually added messages. Now thinking about it out loud VFs by their nature are redundant because you have both the message in the actual folder and the pointers to create the VFs. It is one the manual messages where I think ideals need to be discussed. HTH! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 ________________________________________________________ Current beta is 2.05 beta 12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/

