Hello Carsten, Friday, May 28, 2004, 11:27:01 AM, you wrote: Carsten> Erm, this mail was a joke, wasn't it?
Nope. Carsten> I did not send a smiley. Since when is �fu� a smiley? While not technically a smiley in the sense of the word "smile" people do call them smileys and emoticons. Carsten> I do very much respect your daughter's feelings and I feel Carsten> whith all the supervisors and co-workers. But why should Carsten> anyone having young daughters or working in an office install Carsten> shocking pictures of middle fingers on their e-mail software Carsten> (which are no smileys btw)? They are installed by default if you grabbed the icon package referenced by 9Val. Unless they look carefully, they would probably not notice one was a middle finger. I didn't until later. Carsten> The problem is not the sender IMHO ... Grey area. Since the icon package referenced by 9Val was supposed to be included by default in the beta release, I am guessing that those same icons will be installed by default with the release. Carsten> - Why don't you delete offending icons? I already had. Carsten> - Why did you install offending icons? Because when I got the icon package 9Val referenced I didn't immediately notice one was a middle finger. Carsten> I find these icons rather repulsive. They hurt my personal Carsten> feelings a lot more than any �fu� middle finger I can think Carsten> of. But nobody forced me to install those icons ... so I have Carsten> no problem with it. Duly noted, and not ones I can think I'll be using either, but again, they will most likely be installed by default. So at this point, those offended by the icons should remove those. However, returning to the middle finger icon, it technically breaks list rules concerning language. Yes, it's a symbol, but what it symbolizes breaks the list rules. Granted this could be classified similarly to if I just typed "f*** off", but the difference, at least where children are concerned, is that the image of a middle finger is much, much more likely to be noticed by a child than asterisked out words. Carsten> I can only ask people not wanting to have offending content Carsten> displayed in their e-mails to not install such icons or Carsten> delete them. Trouting small innocent list members for writing Carsten> �kung fu� seems to me, erm, strange ... You only got trouted because I specifically asked (with my moderator hat on) *not* to use the middle finger emoticon on the lists. Carsten> IMO TB! should display only *real* smileys (consisting of : ) Carsten> ( / D ; etc.) By default, I agree totally. I do appreciate the customization aspect greatly so that we can put the ones we want in there. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Stock news: Hoover stock bites the dust. Using The Bat! 2.11 Beta/8 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB ________________________________________________________ Current beta is 2.11 Beta/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
