Hi Gleason, On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:59:01 -0400 UTC (4/12/2007, 12:59 PM -0500 UTC my time), Gleason Pace wrote:
>> Given that all programmers have this same general problem, why is it that >> the free, or open source programs of Thunderbird or Mulberry work perfectly >> with IMAP, and with any IMAP server? G> Mulberry is perhaps the best of the lot, but it does not work G> perfectly. For instance Mulberry has the bad habit of locking up G> Windows XP. The last time that happened, an important unanswered G> email vanished from the server. This has never happened to me, ever, or anyone on the Mulberry lists that I have maintained for them previously. You are correct in that Mulberry follows the IMAP protocol far greater than other clients (more of the protocol features, and some that are not in the RFC's). G> And Mulberry's editing new email features are really unacceptable. It is easy enough to use, just type, and has a much better spell checker. If I need advanced editing features, I use Vim or emacs (in windows or Unix) as my editor with Mulberry. G> Thunderbird has lots of glitz and glamor and name recognition, but it G> is several years behind the rest in features. The plug ins or add-ons are actually not behind in features, but ahead, e.g. full calendar and IMAP sync-ing on my mail servers, even push technology, also PGP use, like in TB!, etc. Even eliminating my above remarks, getting back to the crux, it's IMAP functionality is far superior, and faster, even with those people that keep 1000s of emails in one folder (not really recommended in IMAP). It just works, never had any problems. What one has to decide is if they are willing to give up some features in TB! for a client that handles IMAP well. Will I give up some feature, e.g. to use a Quick Template in order to have IMAP that works properly, without hassles, without jumping through hoops of having to delete caches, fiddle between settings over and over again, and with the ability to log into an IMAP server that has an expired cert ?? ....... any day of the week. >> Yesterday, for example, I had the old bug of "cannot open message" >> again, when I clicked on a new message. G> Yes, it happens on occasion, not nearly as often as in the past. I see, so this is acceptable to you ? "Not nearly as often as in the past" is not good enough for me regarding IMAP, not after waiting 2 full years, through 2 versions. Talking about your "glitz and glamor," isn't that what Ritlabs has been working on, while putting IMAP on the back burner? You seem to forget that last year, when moving to v3, when similar complaints arose, there was an outcry from the IMAP users that progress was slow, incomplete, and why should they pay and upgrade to v3 when IMAP was introduced in v2. -- Gary ________________________________________________________ Current beta is 3.98.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
