Kyle, > Guess I should have offered more credentials before speaking about > programming/debug techniques to qualify my concerns.
> I am a retired IS professional who was a MCSE, and retired as a > fully qualifed IBM Systems Programmer. I started in programming long > before the PC was even a glimmer on the personal horizon as an > assembler programmer. I worked on most of the > Mini-computers of that era before entering the mainframe arena. I > worked on development progjects like "sequential > processing delivery" for Arpanet (what is now referred to as "The > Internet"). I built my own 8080 personal computer, > etiched my own motherboard for it (it worked!) and coded assembler Great, I cut my teeth on Assembler too. But things have changed a lot since then. At one time it was not a large matter to slap together a DOS based pop email client that only did a few things. > I understand the risks of using a development system, but as I > stated before, even with a deveopment effort, there has > to be structure to deveopment or you end up shooting yourself in > the foot too many times (been there, done that). My > point here is that to effectivey assist in deveopment, there > needs(has to be) a base line of stability (regression > style never works well) so that testers can effectively test new > code paths. If the base changes with each feature > inclusion, where is the base for metrics? We aren't doing any metrics. I suspect that what will happen over the next several months is that with out help, TB will come to a level of stability where it can be called a beta, and then testing can be more like you describe. I think the eseential thing to notice here was that, for a long time, Rit made no new test releases, and people complained. We want to be included in what is happening. So, Rit decided to start releasing alphas. Now people complain that what we are getting is not up to our personal standard of what is testable. Would it feel better if Rit called them pre-alphas? Or should they go back to not making any more releases until they have a real beta for us? -- Gleason Using 4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP, 5.1, Build 2600. IMAP email provider is Fastmail, which uses Cyrus server software. ________________________________________________________ Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
