Hi Dwight, On Sunday, April 06, 2008 at 10:45:10 PM you wrote:
DC> On Sunday, April 6, 2008, 9:12:44 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: >> :-) I think this rules out the OS as a parameter for the bug showing >> or not. DC> I haven't noticed any report that the font is not rendered in vista, DC> but lots that it is not rendered in xp. Actually, I think that two or DC> three people using xp have reported that it works for them. At least DC> one of those, you, is using a version of windows which I believe is DC> specifically oriented to not western alphabets. Here, there is just the usual version of Windows. DC> I know that besides DC> this problem with the particular font being discussed, I get a fair DC> amount of spam which renders in vista as what looks to my untrained DC> eye as Chinese (as opposed to Japanese at least) and which is rendered DC> in XP with the little boxes. Do you have the identical fonts on those two machines? Compare a search through all directories, not just the Windows\Fonts directory. DC> Jernej Simončič renders correctly on vista, but looks like the DC> attached on my XP. I don't know if that is related or not, but it DC> seems similar enough to consider. Jernej's surname does render here beautifully in the preview pane. However, the quoted material in my reply shows only boxes. I do have the Open Type version of Estrangelo Edessa on my system, but it is not installed. I don't understand how EEdessa could be related to the problem as it is not an alphabetic font. It only consists of numbers and some numerically-related symbols, so boxes would be shown where no values were designed. Check out the character map in charmap.exe or download The Font Thing where you can see exactly the values contained in the particular font. The Font Thing is a great little program which is still offered by the author and is free of charge. http://members.ozemail.com.au/~scef/tft.html I've just changed the font for quoted material in TB! to Times New Roman (from Trebuchet) and Jernej's name is now displayed properly. I guess the answer to the problem should be that a complete font, such as Arial or Times New Roman, should be used whenever international characters are likely to be encountered. -- Regards, Maggie ____________ Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms. -Aristotle ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Running Windows XP, 5, and emailing with The Bat! 4.0.20 ________________________________________________________ Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

