Dwight,

> On Saturday, May 30, 2009, 7:39:05 AM, Gleason Pace wrote:

>> But I maintain that The Bat Imap is much much better than it was just a few
>> years  ago.   All that remains of the old quirkiness for me is the
>> occasional Ctrl-c to refresh folder contents.

> While  I  agree that it is better than it once was, I certainly would 
> not  classify its major failings as 'quirkiness.' The biggest problem 
> remains message counts. In Vista, the only way to get a current count 
> is  to exit and restart. I find myself doing that often. I'm not sure 
> whether  it  is  TBs  fault  that  the  server  sometimes  closes the 
> connection  and  I  have  to  exit and restart to reconnect, but that 
> happens  on  xp often. I don't trust TB! to create new folders, but I 
> haven't tried it lately. When we start working on IMAP, I'll get some 
> accounts  I can safely experiment on but I screwed up my real account 
> often enough that way in the past I won't risk it there.

And it seems we both use Fastmail, and I have had no problem creating
new  folders.  It is true that TB's folder counts aren't accurate, and
TB doesn't report new mail well, but I never need to restart it.  I
never loose my FM connection unless DSL or FM itself is down.  I have
found  that seeming poor Imap reliability  in all email clients has a lot
to do with connection configuration.  This works for me in TB:
both in and out are set to use Secure To Dedicated Port, 465 for in
and 993 for out.

As  for  folder  counts,  I can get good counts with other clients but
they  are  lacking  some  other things that TB does.  There is no such
thing as a client that does everything well.  I have decided to use
Fastcheck to tell me when new mail arrives
http://www.fastcheck.org/
regardless  of  what  client  I  am  using.  That way, that particular
feature  can be disregarded in favor of other more important ones when
deciding on an email client.

> While TB! continues to suit me better than other apps, partly at least
> out  of habit, if I ever found an app which really handled IMAP well, 
> I'd be gone.

There are others that do a better job.  Thunderbird and Becky.  But
they lack other things, like html handling in replies that are more
important for me.

> If  we don't test IMAP, then I might as well just be gone. POP has no 
> attraction to me, and I can't imagine that it is going to do anything 
> in  the long run but lose out to IMAP. The more people use their mail 
> on  more  than  one  machine, the more they are going to need IMAP or 
> webmail, or something besides POP.

Don't think so.  People mostly use POP because that is what most ISP's
provide.  That isn't likely to change.


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 Gleason                            


Using The Bat 4.1.14.2 (RC2) on Windows XP
5.1 Build 2600


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