Hi Tom,
On 18 January 2000 at 17:50:56 GMT -0800 (which was 01:50 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:
AVK>>>> Please, don't do this! Maybe as an option only;-) It's thel
AVK>>>> thing I like *most* in TB's editor, morethenthat, I use *only*
AVK>>>> the editors that support this...
MDP>> Agreed, completely.
TP> Well, you two aren't typical Windows users. As it goes, virtual
TP> spacel has some people who like it and others who don't.
Tom - that's not reasonable. We're both *very different users* who
happen to agree on this point.
TP> That said, if I could map the BRIEF keys to operations, I wouldn't
TP> mind it 'cause that's what I'm used to when programming. However,
TP> the abortion known as the Borland keymap mixed with CUA really
TP> doesn't help me use virtual space.
If you have ever used Brief (and not just its' key mappings) then
virtual space is something you *should* know how to use effectively -
and it *can* be used effectively, especially for formatting plain text
email.
MDP>> <grumble><mumble> Might I humbly suggest you use TB as an e-mail
MDP>> client a while longer.
TP> Why, so these feelings get reinforced?
No - so that you can begin to understand the power of the virtual
space for plain text formatting.
With space can some things.
virtual you do interesting
Without it - no possibility.
TP> Seriously, the reason I don't like virtual space have nothing to
TP> do with the fact that I'm not used to it.
Now you're not making any sense. With virtual space - plain text
formatting; without it - Tom is happier. It has everything to do with
what you are used to.
TP> I HATE being required to use the mouse.
Then you're not using virtual space correctly. I never touch the mouse
in TB when editing. In fact, the only time virtual space is a nuisance
for me is when the mouse gets dragged into editing (eek - a pun -
curses; I thought I was cured).
MDP>> The editor is one thing that suddenly leaps out as being very
MDP>> well suited to the job it does for the /type of information/ it
MDP>> works on.
TP> No better suited than an editor without virtual space.
And I believe you're missing the point because of old prejudices.
TP> I mean seriously, any text editor probably does a fine job at
TP> editing text files. However, to have the broadest appeal you have
TP> to appeal to the broadest market.
As Thomas said in his reply - the broadest market is not what is
available here - the free clients soak that one up.
MDP>> IMHO "Many other popular apps" do not have to work on
MDP>> semi-formatted plain text in anything like the same way.
TP> In my memory, emacs does a fine job, is more configurable, and has
TP> more features.
Now we've got back to the "use an external editor" option. I'm just
trying to point out aspects of TB's internal editor which you may have
missed.
There's nothing to stop you firing up emacs and using C&P to take the
edited text back and forth between the emacs and TB until an external
editor option is introduced for TB (if ever).
MDP>> "Don't bloat The Bat!". :-)
TP> Hmm, glad that's your opinion because any intelligent programmer
TP> wouldn't have set the system up to require a plethora of
TP> underlying conditional coding to subvert the editor.
It depends on what the aims of the programmer were in the first place
and how sprawling the cursor placement logic is in the code.
TP> ... the poor-man's EOL follower in place, and that is NOT what is
TP> commonly known as "bloat."
It may well be a simple option to add ... if so then I withdraw my
objection to it being optional. OTOH if it adds more than 1kb of code
I would personally call that too expensive a gesture merely to placate
the die hard CUA fans who haven't yet really discovered the power of
the TB editor's formatting capabilities.
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Cheers,
.\\arck
Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer
Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA
www: http://www.silverstones.com
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