DH> Have you tried Alt-J?

Personally can't stand all of the weird spacing, but that has nothing
to do with virtual space:

DH> I use TB for correspondence in both English and Spanish. Spanish
DH> text is generally justified. You can justify any paragraph "de
DH> volada" (on the fly) simply by doing that. This explains the
DH> virtual space issue. You need the blank line to separate
DH> paragraphs.

I can't understand how these two issues would be related in even the
most obtuse way.

However, I would like to be able to configure two spaces after a
period, and I would like the editor to not auto-wrap my current line
until I actually type a non-whitespace character.  To each their own,
but if a period falls in column 69, I hit two spaces and end up one
space into the next line.  Then I hit backspace and sometimes end up
going to the previous line....  Some weird things, even when
auto-format is turned off.

DH> Calypso's spell mono-lingual spell checker is as big a joke as
DH> their tech support - when in doubt...

Thanks for the Calypso comments, btw.  I don't care about spell
checkers (never use them), but if you can't get support when you have
problems, well, that's bad.

DH> But: From how many accounts can Calypso send or download from at once?
DH> It's sequential. Not TB! And TB's stable.

ick.

TP>>>> Well, you two aren't typical Windows users. As it goes, virtual
TP>>>> space has some people who like it and others who don't.

DH> You may have noticed that most TB users and supporters (i.e. AEV) on
DH> TBUDL *aren't your* "typical Windows users", don't share the typical
DH> assumptions held by US "Windows users" and are not even in the U.S.
DH> Welcome to TB!, a refreshing approach to email.

Am I correct in assuming that people think I said that most The Bat!
users are typical Windows users, or that it should most appeal to
these people?  Please, someone, if I did cite me now and then shoot
me, and then drop the freakin' thing because I was only pointing out
that different people had different needs, ESPECIALLY in the target
audience of this software.

TP>> Plus I've never managed to get Emacs to run on this PC.

DH> Does Emacs do what TB! does?

TP>> What else?  Well, it has everything that TB has, but more of it.

DH> Including email?

We were talking about editors, please keep context in mind.

Emacs does do email, fwiw.  Haven't looked at it since 1991, but it
was the most feature-rich mailer at the time that was installed on the
computers that I used.  Can't comment on its current state.

DH> I happen to agree about the key strokes. Ctrl-V in Calypso is
DH> Shift-Ctrl-K in TB! (which takes no more energy for me then the
DH> first), plus you've got Shift-Ctrl-H. I can live with this. TB! is
DH> worth learning. And as stated, key configurations will be optional in
DH> v. 2.

If you were to come to get carpal tunnel syndrome (which has been
extending its talons into me recently), you'll come to appreciate the
difference between pressing ^] for next message vs. 'n' or <space>.

I am so happy someone pointed out that you can use the space bar when
the focus is in the message list pane.  If only there was a way to go back
in the message...  Also noticed that the mousewheel works in the
message view pane even if the focus is not there.  Very trick.  (why
isn't this in any of the documentation that I read?)

DH> but while many of your comments may be helpful, I strongly suggest
DH> you suspend your assumptions to a greater degree and try to
DH> assimilate the approach TB takes to windows email.

In other words "shut the hell up 'til you've been accepted as a long
time user of this program.

I have four words I could say to that, but I won't.  What I will say
is that I will speak what I know and what I feel, and these are things
that WOULD increase The Bat!'s (narrow) market appeal, and I will not
make such outrageous suggestions as adding a file manager or news
reader to the software.  All I want is something that is good at
handling mail, both incoming and outgoing, both reading and writing.

-tom!

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