Thanks Curtis,
I'm going to study this some more. After having to use this weird
text editor I'm not at all sure I'll stay with this program. I've
never seen anything so clumsy to write with...and I mean that
literally. I read the threads on this board concerning the text
editor before I downloaded the program for trial. I didn't know what
the problem was. I sure see it now. I'm sure some folks really
like it, but I'm thankful I have a choice.
I'm an old guy that thinks the Logitech Marble track ball is part of
his right hand. Have mouse? Can do. Took me 3 years to find Ctrl C,
Ctrl V.
Please refer to a previous post for my very simple needs in filters. I
thought I had a file of filter strings I used for years in Forte'
Agent but I think they were deleted in the computer change last month.
They consisted of unreadable, to me, code and expressions that includes
a list of words used most by get rich quick artist, multilevel
marketing schemes, find anything idiots, and whorehouses full of
sailors and whole domains used by those kind of mailers. Also were
things like all CAPS, $$$, !!!, and a thousand others.
I have some kind of total mental paralysis when it comes to
regular expressions. Imagine a constantly looping shell game in your
head and you have an idea of how I feel. After the third negative
reversal, if three conditions, but not two others, are met on the
second repetition.......etc. I just go numb.
I think it's going to depend on waiting for Agent to become capable
of multiple addresses, figuring out Eudora, or figuring out a way to
use my "notepad" program in the BAT. I hope its the later.
jack
Tuesday, September 19, 2000, 8:47:55 PM, you wrote:
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A> On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:38:21 -0600, jbelk wrote:
Karin>>> Go to the Options tab and tick Continue Processing With Other
Karin>>> Folders.
A> I personally have never had reason to use this option.
j>> First, I've heard of this. It seems to not be the default but is
j>> necessary to make the filter work right.
A> No, it's not necessary to make a typical filter work right.
A> By default, each incoming message is checked to see if it matches a
A> filter rules string matching criteria. Each filter rule is checked
A> starting from the top of the filter list and working downwards. As soon
A> as a filter string match is found, the matching filters actions are
A> applied and no other subsequent filter is applied to the same message
A> after that. IOW's, by default, either a single or no filter rule will be
A> applied to a message.
A> Take for example you have a message that will be filtered by filters
A> rules 1 and 4 in the filter set below.
A> Filter rule 1
A> Filter rule 2
A> Filter rule 3
A> Filter rule 4
A> By default, once a match is made with filter rule 1, the message is no
A> longer matched with any other filters. You have to keep this in mind.
A> One of the reasons why a filter will not work is if the intended message
A> is being filtered out by a preceding filter who's string search matches
A> the message. The importance of the ordering of your filters now becomes
A> evident.
j>> I re-read the help files and didn't see it there. Should this box be
j>> checked on all filters? OR just all but the last one?
A> I don't use this check box at all.
A> This option basically instructs TB! that even though the message has been
A> matched to a particular filter rule, to continue matching it with the
A> other filters. This will only work if the initial filter rule did not
A> move the message to another folder.
j>> This sure is counter intuitive to my way of thinking. The FIRST
j>> filter I set up in any program is one that blocks the hundreds of
j>> spam messages that flood all email addys that have been around for a
j>> while.
A> If you're going to put that filter first, it has to be really specific
A> and not inadvertently filter out good mail. I'd advise you to put the
A> filters for legitimate and important e-mail first on the list and then
A> after that, put the spam filter/s in place.
j>> Is it a bug to add new filters at the bottom of the list??
A> I note that TB! does this through the quick filter method, although
A> there's an option to 'override existing filters' which places the filter
A> at the top of the list. It's risky to put the filter at the bottom of
A> the list because the intended messages have to not match any filter that
A> precedes that last filter in order for the last filter to work with the
A> intended messages.
j>> And what is the difference between the "!<address>" and "Presence: No
j>> ?" Seems to me it's the same thing just more convoluted.
A> It just makes it more flexible. You can set your filter to be applied if
A> the defined string is found in the message or if it is not found in the
A> message.
A> Take for example, in my filter rules there's one that will send an
A> auto-reply not only when 'SendAlliePGPKey' is found in the subject field
A> but also if neither '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' nor
A> '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' are present in the headers.
A> So for the filter I have the following strings:
A> Strings Location Presence
A> - ------- -------- --------
A> SendAlliePGPKey Subject Yes
A> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kludges No
A> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kludges No
j>> So does this mean every time a new spam sneaks through existing
j>> filters I'll have to create a new filter for it, open the Sorting
j>> Office/Filters and move the new filter somewhere else? Is there a way
j>> to just add the latest intruder to the existing spam filter?
A> Just out of interest, how are you going about creating the spam filter
A> rules? To what string are you filtering to because spam artists rarely
A> ever send spam using the same name or from address. Creating filters to
A> these usually amounts to a futile exercise.
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