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Hi Graham,
On 22 September 2000 at 19:47:00 GMT +0100 (which was 19:47 where I
live) Graham wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Exporting":
G> I don't use unix, never have done, probably never will do.
Unix *format* - not unix.
G> I'm a Windows user. Why can't TB do this directly in a Windows
G> environment;
It does.
G> after all, it is a Windows program?
It is.
You're not understanding something fundamental here.
Unix format is a *computing* industry standard mailbox format which is
portable between nearly all of the major email systems and, by
coincidence, Unix, from which it originated.
G> If I've got to resort to another OS other than Windows, sorry, I
G> turn off.
Nobody's asking you to do anything in Unix. Actually, that's not true.
The Internet - the whole thing - came from Unix. You probably use unix
computers every time you go on-line, but that's not the point.
Everything we discuss here is about TB and Windows.
G> That is the problem over the discussion over the interface, IMHO. I
G> want to see The Bat look like other Windows programs and its editor
G> act like their's. I am not interested in it being like a unix
G> program,
It doesn't. It never has. The authors didn't come from a Unix
environment - they're from a DOS and Windows background. The Bat!
doesn't come from Unix - It's pure Windows. I don't understand why you
keep saying this - you've said it a few times now. I felt it my duty
to pick you up on it this time ;-).
You've not used Unix so you don't know that TB doesn't conform to any
Unix UI standards. Old Unix standards are for command line / terminal
software anyway, not GUI.
It is only the hidden bits of TB (the protocols and mail handling)
that owe anything at all to Unix .. for *very* good reason:
It is TCP/IP, SMTP, POP, mailboxes, HTML, HTTP, Telnet and all the
other "stuff-that-is-Internet" that comes from Unix. That's why it is
always being mentioned. And it's the only reason it is mentioned
(other than the occasional Linux guru who hankers to have TB ported to
Linux).
It's probably the rise of the popularity of the Internet that has made
computer people look afresh at Unix as an OS and why Linux has begun
to form a /serious/ threat to the future of Windows for the first time
since Microsoft closed it's fingers around the throat of the industry.
G> even if that sort of a computing environment's what most of the
G> "powers users" are used to.
G> <Sorry, got it off my chest>
I don't really know why. This is the wrong place. We're all Windows
people here. Oh, I've got Linux. Somewhere. On CD. Haven't got the
spare time to install it - I earn my living in Windows.
Perhaps you can look afresh at what we've been trying to say here
without the confusing veil of unfounded Unix prejudice. We are not
Unix people. TB is not Unix software.
I hope that clarifies things a bit for you.
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Cheers,
.\\arck
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