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On 17 November, 2000, 1:09 PM, I saw Ming-Li's comments made on
Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:45:15 -0800, and thought I'd add my $0.02 worth:
OK, Ming; I'll take your 'preambulatory' cue, :=), and start by saying
that I was thinking of declaring this thread a dead horse, but the
maturity of the discourse has been so good that I've not only changed
my mind, but have also decided to respond to some of what you wrote.
ML> I believe you're going a little too far here by accusing Doug coming
ML> on board solely (or mostly) on the purpose of promoting a competing
ML> product. I didn't feel that way, and I still don't after reading it
ML> a couple more times. Thomas said:
This is why he added his disclaimer statement at the end which I thought
would have diffused the situation. :=)
ML> Risking over-generalization, I feel you've been a little testy
ML> recently whenever someone mentions a competing product, especially
ML> when he/she posts with that product, and asks about features TB
ML> lacks.
Hmmmm. This is perhaps unreasonable. The last incident of a similar
reprimand was when when someone asked if TB! supported a particular
feature. Someone else, posting with another client, and who in the past
stated his preference for this other client, not only misinformed the
user that TB! did not support said feature, but went on to encourage the
enquiring user where he could get his preferred client.
Marck stepped in and I agreed on that account.
The incident before that involved both Marck and myself *supporting* a
particular posters comments in favour of an alternative client after he
was admonished for doing so by another member.:=)
So, yes, I find your assessment to be an over-generalization. :=)
ML> Some of you suggest while it can be done, it should be discouraged.
ML> E.g., Allie said:
ACM>> There are two ways of modifying received messages using TB! as
ACM>> it is. They're a tad more tedious than what Becky and Calypso
ACM>> provide, but this should be the case since making it easy for
ACM>> the passing user encourages the practice rather than discourage
ACM>> it.
My attitude towards it is the same as with HTML mail. Did you read what
I recently wrote about HTML mail? The short of it is that I feel it
definitely has its place but it shouldn't be encouraged as the thing to
do with impunity or willy-nilly.
ML> Again, I don't agree. Just as physical mail we receive (or books we
ML> own, etc.), what we like to do with the copies we own is totally our
ML> business. If your argument holds, moreover, then why don't we take
ML> away the trash can in TB? :) Or why should we allow people to change
ML> the "Save" template,
That's for my own purposes and the message cannot be sent out, even
accidentally.
ML> or delete attachments,
Expecting ones attachment to be saved elsewhere and/or deleted is an
accepted norm.
ML> or delete the html part?
the same goes for HTML versions.
:=) It's a matter of degree. The fact that an inch is acceptable doesn't
mean the whole 9 yards is fine.
ML> Or why do we allow forwarding messages in text (rather than MIME
ML> attached)?
When I see forwarded messages as text, my hackles raise in that I know
it could be altered.
To me, it's all a matter of degree.
ML> There're as many legitimate reasons to modify a received message as
ML> to delete it.
Deleting a message cannot be compared. :=)
ML> If needed, one can save a copy of the original. What's wrong with
ML> that? The official list archives of TBUDL and TBBETA cross out
ML> senders' email addresses, for good reasons. Why can't the users do
ML> similar things, to mail in his/her own mailboxes?
To me, it's all a matter of degree. This alteration is made known as
well.
[..]
ML> That proves you're still a great moderator, Marck, and I tip my hat
ML> to you. :)
:=) Ditto.
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