Hello Jonathan,

The problem with KLEZ is that it has its own built in SMTP server
and sends out mails (all from the WAB - Windows Address Book) as
if they come directly from the person whose address is used.  You
can't determine where the message actually came from.  The safest
course is to REMOVE Outlook AND the Windows Address Book
ENTIRELY. Those are the targets of 99.99% of the virus code!

With The Bat!, as long as you don't right click and save the
attachments, and then get even dumber and run them, they can
usually do nothing. Absent Outlook and WAB, there is virtually
nothing the virus can do, other than whatever destructive code it
runs locally.

Tuesday, May 7, 2002, 4:44:13 AM, in a galaxy far, far away, Jonathan wrote:

Jonathan Angliss> On Tue, 7 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> As the subject says I *might* have a copy of klez in The Bat.
>> Norton detected it as it came into my mailbox, but the message
>> still has an attachment in it, so not sure if its a replaced
>> klez or the real thing. Needless to say I'm reluctant to open
>> the email.

>> I know Bat shouldnt be suspectible to Klez, but if I have
>> Outlook and Outlook express also installed on the same pc (i'm
>> looking to move away from them to The_Bat) but I'm concerned
>> that I could be vunerable.

>> Any thoughts?

Jonathan Angliss> To answer your subject.. simply no.  TB!
Jonathan Angliss> doesn't have the code processing ability to
Jonathan Angliss> handle the <iframe> tag that causes the problem
Jonathan Angliss> in Outlook/Outlook Express.  Which is good for
Jonathan Angliss> us ;)  Norton normally would replace your
Jonathan Angliss> infected attachment with a text document that
Jonathan Angliss> with a name like "Norton Anti Virus alert.txt"
Jonathan Angliss> (I don't remember the full name).  That file is
Jonathan Angliss> safe to open... it just contains the original
Jonathan Angliss> file NAME, and what virus it was infected with.

Jonathan Angliss> I do advise you before opening your inbox with
Jonathan Angliss> Outlook/Outlook Express, delete that particular
Jonathan Angliss> message off of your mail server if you've not
Jonathan Angliss> done it already.

Jonathan Angliss> And if you're feeling really nice... you could
Jonathan Angliss> see if you can guess which friend is infected
Jonathan Angliss> by tracing the headers backwards... and see if
Jonathan Angliss> you know the person... if so... drop them a
Jonathan Angliss> mail, and notify them.  Note that the From:
Jonathan Angliss> field is NOT a reliable source to work out who
Jonathan Angliss> sent it.  In some cases, the "Return-Path" tag
Jonathan Angliss> is set, which is the first place to start... if
Jonathan Angliss> that is not set, try guessing from the ISP. In
Jonathan Angliss> the number of cases I've been sent it, I've
Jonathan Angliss> been able to work out which few people have
Jonathan Angliss> been infected by ISP alone (sad I know most of
Jonathan Angliss> my friend's ISPs).

Jonathan Angliss> Good luck :)

-- 
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