On Monday, August 12, 2002 @ 7:27:17 PM [-0700], Thomas F. wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 15:30:56 -0700 GMT (13/08/02, 05:30 +0700 GMT),
> Matt Thoene wrote:

MT>> Caught this thread on spamassassin.  The Bat will thankfully NOT be
MT>> labeled as "ratware".

> How professional are these people? How much power (in which ever way)
> do they have?

Wow, is there a full moon or something? I've posted a few messages to
various lists this week and have seen just brutal responses. Unfounded
at that. No they're not professionals. But they do use a piece of
software that does a hell of a job on stopping spam at the server. I've
seen groundswells on that list that get pretty ugly. This could have
easily been one of them.

MT>> Just noticed this one today. A quick grep found it 4 times in my spam
MT>> archive, which is only a few days old.

Improperly notated...(wasn't me who typed this)

> How many messages were in the spam archive? How many messages showed
> OE or OL as mailer? Why is this guy representative that his finding
> would have mattered anyway? Because he knows what grep is, he is the
> guru over there?

> Luckily, because two people on the same list know people who use TB
> and are not spammers, TB was not labeled "ratware". Wow. I am awed by
> their scientific approach.

He's no guru of course. He was referring to a piece of spam he received
that had The Bat listed as the Mailer. He didn't recognize it and posted
it. Man, why the attack? I was just sending along an informative message
from another list. Sheesh.

> Sorry, but if these guys have anything to say in ISPs, the internet is
> doomed.

They do. Spamassassin is used quite a bit in the smaller to mid-size ISP
world...has been for a few years. I don't think it's doomed anything
just yet.

-- 
Matt                       


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