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Dear Kenneth,

On 03:43 29.05.2003, you [Kenneth S. Rhee] wrote...

> Actually it is my Spam program I'm using that's tapping onto the

We're investigating why exactly the mail server got listed in Spamcop.
Indeed, it is currently listed, but the evidence given at
<http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblock&ip=62.80.28.28> is not
very clear.

It seems to date date the spammer send a message to Marck, which is
the owner of the TB lists:

draenor:/var/log/exim# cat mainlog.0 | grep 19L0h0-00071n-00
2003-05-28 15:10:14 19L0h0-00071n-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=(hotmail.com)
[61.102.143.114] P=smtp S=5629 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2003-05-28 15:10:15 19L0h0-00071n-00 => tbtech
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> D=mm21_director T=mm21_transport
2003-05-28 15:10:16 19L0h0-00071n-00 => tbbeta
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> D=mm21_director T=mm21_transport
2003-05-28 15:10:18 19L0h0-00071n-00 => tbtech.unsub
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> D=spamcheck_director T=spamcheck
2003-05-28 15:10:18 19L0h0-00071n-00 -> tbtech.sub
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> D=spamcheck_director T=spamcheck
2003-05-28 15:10:18 19L0h0-00071n-00 -> tbbeta.sub
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> D=spamcheck_director T=spamcheck
2003-05-28 15:10:18 19L0h0-00071n-00 -> tbtech-unsubcribe
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> D=spamcheck_director T=spamcheck
2003-05-28 15:10:18 19L0h0-00071n-00 -> listar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
D=spamcheck_director T=spamcheck
2003-05-28 15:10:18 19L0h0-00071n-00 -> tbindo-moderators
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> D=spamcheck_director T=spamcheck
2003-05-28 15:10:20 19L0h0-00071n-00 => tbbeta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
D=mm21_main_director T=mm21_transport
2003-05-28 15:10:22 19L0h0-00071n-00 => tbudl
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> D=mm21_director T=mm21_transport
2003-05-28 15:10:22 19L0h0-00071n-00 Completed
draenor:/var/log/exim#

And that Marcks MTA submitted the mail automatically. I've contacted
him off list to resolve this. Meanwhile, let me add that I consider it
bad game from SpamCop to block sites w/o notice that are not open
relays.

Relaying a message to the list owner is perfectly valid, and most list
owners I know are using mail accoutns that are not on the list manager
machine.

In the meantime, we're routing the Mailman messages through another
machine, as to get away from SpamCop listing.

Cheers,
 Johannes                            mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- --
A year spent in artificial intelligence is enough to make one believe
in God.

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