Hello Nick, Wednesday, April 20, 2005, 3:58:37 PM, you wrote:
ND> Aside from the fact that mails are put into a spam folder by ND> bayesit, I can't find any other sign in the message. Is this so? As far as I can tell, TB doesn't mark the message at all - which I personally find quite disappointing. Each anti-spam plug-in that The Bat! uses keeps its own separate logs, which you can use. In the vase of BayesIt, the logs are here: \Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\BayesIt\ The file name will be bayesit.log. (I'm assuming Windows 2000/XP, by the way - no idea where it is on other platforms, but the filename will be the same and you could search on it...) I've used BayesIt for about a year now, I think, and it's almost flawless. I was getting only a couple of mails a day pass it by, and those were generally "blank" mails - no text to analyse means that BayesIt is somewhat hamstrung! Because of those blank emails, I added the Bayes Filter Plugin as a second plugin. You can find that here: http://www.lkcc.org/achim It's good, and I chose it because unlike BayesIt (as far as I know), it also does RBL lookups - with which I hope to catch those blank emails. I've had to drop my spam filtering options to use the Minimal score for filtering, and I now see more spam per day - but the figure is going down as I train Bayes Filter Plugin, so I'm happy to accept this for a while. I mention the second plugin because it shows the real problem with "spam logs" in The Bat! - many people will tell you where BayesIt's logs are, as I just have. And I can also find the Bayes Filter Plugin's own logs. But I'll have to read BOTH sets of logs to figure out what's going on definitively. Actually, I won't. I can read The Bat's logs if I like. CTRL+SHIFT+A will show me the logs for the account I'm in, and in there you'll see when The Bat! has had a message reported as spam by a plugin. It'll be on a line starting with the words FILTER (after the date and time,of course) - but you'll probably have to scroll far to the right to actually see if it's the Junk Mail filters or one of your own filters. With just the BayesIt plugin, it won't be so bad for yourself. You can read just the bayesit.log file, and that'll help you. It's certainly going to be much easier than reading The Bat!'s own logs... But I have two plugins. Each one might report a different score, and that makes it difficult to spot exactly what's going on... What was the score reported by the plugin APIs? Remember, with morethan one plugin, you have three possibilities: Use the maximum score, the average or the minimal. So if one plugin reports a score of 99 and one reports a score of 0, this is what those settings would report: Maximal: 99 Average: ~50 Minimal: 0 If BayesIt reported 99, and I'm using Minimal or Average (with a threshold of over 50), then I'd see in the BayesIt logs that it was spam but not realise that The Bat! never thought it was spam. This can get very confusing very quickly. Especially as, at the end of the day, what the plugin reports is ONLY important if oyu have just one plugin. Now, I'll grant you most people only have one plugin, but I like defence in depth and I think that multiple plugins is a good idea. It's just very badly supported by The Bat!'s logging mechanism. The Bat!'s log reader is a bit basic. I'd really like to see a much better log tool - one which allows me to see all log entries across all accounts, and also to filter based on account, action (fetch/send/filter etc) and to search for specific text (so that I can check my logs for messages from specific addresses, to see if a rule inadvertantly filtered it) and so forth. I'm not in a hurry to get such a feature, but in my opinion The Bat!'s logs will be unusable until such a feature arrives. As to your original question, I have no problem with the Plugins marking the message. But I'd rather that the actual problem was dealt with: decent logging. If I had good logs, I wouldn't even think to check the headers of the message to see what had happened... ;-) -- Best regards, Philip mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
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