Hello Leif, I don't disagree with anything that you said ... in theory. Unfortunately in practice it seems that more and more folks are using things in the most simplistic, least responsible way because it is easier than doing it right <sigh>
We are devo :-/ -- Best regards, MikeD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Thursday, October 26, 2006, 10:08:17 AM, you wrote: LG> Hello MikeD, LG> Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 2:01:58 PM, you wrote: >> When you miss that important email because it was sent from someone >> that was blacklisted incorrectly, I will remind you of those 600 >> other messages and ask you which was more important, the one or the >> 600 <g> LG> And that'd be poor use of services like Spamhaus and DNSbls. They are LG> a tool, not the end-all-be-all. If someone is using these services as LG> a pass/fail, then they're doing it wrong. The right way is to add LG> "points" to a spaminess score. i.e. if an e-mail comes from an IP LG> listed on one of the services, it get's some points added, but if it LG> meets absolutely no other spam criteria, the points it received on the LG> DNSbl listing alone *should not* be enough to classify it as spam. LG> The whole issue about a U.S. court potentially "trying" to shut down LG> the Spamhaus domain wouldn't have been quite as catastrophic as they LG> tried to lead everyone to believe. Yes, there would have been problems LG> on mail servers where the mail server admin didn't have a clue and LG> Spamhaus was a pass/fail measure, but the big mail handlers (big ISP) LG> wouldn't have gotten nailed anywhere near as badly. >> I really hate it when my ISP decides to reject some email that >> *they* think is spam but is actually real and sometimes important. I >> currently have everything they offer disabled and rely on the >> plugin. That way I get all the messages. LG> I use Gmail and allow them to run their spam filters. However, I still LG> check the messages from time to time. So far Google hasn't made any LG> mistakes with my e-mail. Unlike Comcast who castrated *all* my e-mail LG> for basically four days in a row. >> Can you tell I don't like the black list model? <g> LG> It can work provided the e-mail admin really understands how to use LG> it. They are *not* a silver bullet. They are just one more tool in the LG> arsenal. ________________________________________________ Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
