MM>>> And when I tried a v. 3.85 MSI install, Windows told me it MM>>> could not do that.
DH>> B Gates could be the devil. > Well, the impulse to control/"rule" just everything and yet due to > greediness is a demonic property, yes. Some call them "hungry spirits", Insatiable and born and raised to cheat and lie. > beings of artificial appetite that is impossible to satisfy, so > they are depicted as terribly skinny creatures with huge > balloon-alike stomachs. Sounds like a ghoul. >>>>> Manually extracting the files from the MSI archive will most >>>>> likely not fix it. You'll still have a corrupt entry in the MS >>>>> installer database that needs fixing. >> Mr. Mica said that all I had to do is substitute the old thebat.exe >> file with the new one. > I always was doing this way, including the versions 3 (those in > MSI packages as well), until I gave them up. I think that will work most of the time but it depends on the upgrade. The logical thing to do would be to check with the TB! Tech support Staff. >> I recall that this used to work for most previous TB! uogrades, and >> there was also an ftp access with zip files on the ritlab site. > Yes, those were the exe files only, and mainly compressed with RAR. La > MSI emballage made the things just more complicated, limited, and yet > tinkering quite unnecessarily with OS. Exactly. > There is nothing worse than a software integrated, in any way, > into OS, which is the source then of instability of both the > software and OS. That's why I have my OS's and Applications in different partitions. (Data too). >> Mr. Mica said TB! runs pretty slow on Linux. There were a lot of >> people on tbot using Xandros but they must have unsubscribed. > Only the charming buxom lady Anne, quite experienced Linux user, > used TB and Xandros, to my knowledge, but she unsubscribed, yes, > longish time ago. She was quite happy with this combination. There were others, but I don't have access the files. One of the posters at that time was named Angliss I recall, but I don't remember if he was one of the Xandros group or not. IAC, you're providing an orientation I need on this subject. > I myself was using TB under Xandros (and many other Linuxes, > Vector, Knoppix, Gentoo, Libranet, Gnoppix, Slackware, Debian...), > but basically the performance, in relation to Windows, is same. I > used Xandros to try if Cross Office could do it better than Wine > (although the core of Cross Office is based exactly on the Wine), > but it couldn't. Even the "pure" Wine is a wee bit better (more > clean, lighter on resources and faster). > You could try it yourself and see does this speed match your > working habits, temperament (my best experiences so far are with > Knoppix 5.0.1 and the version of Wine coming with it). Except the > speed and some aesthetic quirks, slight twitches and > peculiarities, everything works, and as usual. Knoppix runs from a CD. I have an older version (3.6) of it. > But if you work a bit longer with it, those twitches have tendency > to assimilate you, like smallpox. > TB under Linux quivers like a pudding. Slightly though and quite > delicately, but quivers. I myself don't like it. With software. I > like firm and defined forms on that score, so when you click on a > button, or "inter-face", nothing shakes nor ripples. > Anyway, developers of Wine obviously advance. Earlier, TB will > simply explode right in your face, if you touch wrong button/area > or you make wrong move, which means actually that we probably will > not need any "portage" to Linux, but will manage quite fine via > Wine. TB! users are not main stream people and IMO, RitLab's targeting main stream windows users at the expense of more resourceful individuals was a mistake. The TB! lists are an important resource but RitLab's tech support is pretty good too. I've always gotten responses and a developer is going to be much more competent than a lot of those insolent fools working at larger corporations. I used Calypso before discovering TB! and had a nightmarish experience with it and especially, with their worse-than-nothing Dallas based tech support staff. And that was before the company failed. Vista is said to be more stable than previous versions of windows and RitLabs has announced that a Vista certified version of Tb! will be released soon. So I think I'll stick with what's working for me at present, and not take risks that could require reinstalling things that are working reasonably well right now, since I've got a lot of commitments with work to do and am short on help here, so I really don't have time to do things over, particularly when it's unnecessary. IOW, if I change over to Vista, I'll upgrade TB! then. The main advantage to using windows is the tremendous amount of third party software, shareware and freeware available. -- Douglas ________________________________________________ Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
