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 ~( __ _"o   Was another beautiful day, Thu, 7 Dec 2006,
   @  @      at 18:40:46 -0600, when Douglas Hinds wrote:

DH>>> B Gates could be the devil.

>> Well, the impulse to control/"rule" just everything and yet due to
>> greediness is a demonic property, yes. Some call them "hungry spirits",

> Insatiable and born and raised to cheat and lie.

>> beings of artificial appetite that is impossible to satisfy, so
>> they are depicted as terribly skinny creatures with huge
>> balloon-alike stomachs.

> Sounds like a ghoul.

"Hungry ghost" would be somewhat better term, yes, instead of "hungry
spirit", although both are used. It is from Sanskrit "preta", Japanese
"gaki". (One of quite fine imagery is attached in copied message to
TBOT: preta-HungrySpirit-Ghost.jpg, 17.793) The entire picture/scroll
can be found here too:
<http://www.arthistory-archaeology.umd.edu/resources/modules/monsters/sld021.htm>.

This Tanka Art Galery (of Tibetan origin)
<http://www.umma.lsa.umich.edu/Orient/Koelz/Tankas/tankas.html> includes
plenty of imageries of various psychological functions/states as well.

...

> I think that will work most of the time but it depends on the upgrade.
> The logical thing to do would be to check with the TB! Tech support
> Staff.

Yes, it works most of the time, but if there are some very special
changes in routines, one has to do a complete {up|down}grade (with
deinstall and new install).


> That's why I have my OS's and Applications in different partitions.
> (Data too).

This schema with three main partitions (OS | Programs | Data/Documents)
is the best/safest way. Many professionals find it as best solution too.
Often is done further division of the Data as well (e.g. private,
business etc.).


>> You could try it yourself and see does this speed match your
>> working habits, temperament (my best experiences so far are with
>> Knoppix 5.0.1 and the version of Wine coming with it). Except the
>> speed and some aesthetic quirks, slight twitches and
>> peculiarities, everything works, and as usual.

> Knoppix runs from a CD. I have an older version (3.6) of it.

Knoppix also can be installed quite easily to hard disk as well (the
easiest Linux installation actually, but is not very known, taking about
20 minutes and being 98,7% automatic). Very easy instructions I have
sent recently to a TBOT (to a...member claiming he is not Dick
Whittington and who couldn't manage with it). If you want I can resend
these instructions.

Knoppix 5.5.1 (on CD and on HDD) is even better than 3.x versions
(having better version of Wine as well), but versions 3 also can be
installed on hard disk (the same procedure, you just call the
installation script that does everything needed). The 5.5.1 has three
types of installation: typical Debian one, then for beginners, and one
exactly as it is on CD (with a fine sexy female voice at the opening and
the closing of the system).

On TBUDL I think I already have sent instructions on how to install TB
in Linux using Wine.

> TB! users are not main stream people and IMO, RitLab's targeting main
> stream windows users at the expense of more resourceful individuals
> was a mistake.

Well...appetites for "popularity" increase and the target group changes,
yes. Hence the needs of aristocracy of e-mailing world are not priority
anymore, as it was once upon a time, since the Fine Product has to be
spread among wide public masses as well (the very reason why the
Ministry of Silly Features and Ministry of Useless Wishes were
established), and hence the droop in quality. I resisted for a while,
and then found myself quite pleased with just watching it from the
gallery separe (and commenting on occasion, with or without petards and
tomatoes).

> The TB! lists are an important resource but RitLab's tech support is
> pretty good too. I've always gotten responses and a developer is going
> to be much more competent than a lot of those insolent fools working
> at larger corporations.

I've heard that they indeed are good and quite fair, although never had
need for their help, assistance. TB (expert) lists do indeed excellent
work, and lots of members here are quite helpful and effective. Most of
them are besides quite friendly, of undamaged nerves, literate and
genuinely civilized too, that contributes to the experience, so that I
almost feel as in old good times of TB being a mailer for real
aristocracy.

> I used Calypso before discovering TB! and had a nightmarish experience
> with it and especially, with their worse-than-nothing Dallas based
> tech support staff.

I've heard about lots of such experiences too, with various
manufacturers.

> Vista is said to be more stable than previous versions of windows and
> RitLabs has announced that a Vista certified version of Tb! will be
> released soon.

There you see. Windows become more and more "specialized" and "picky" in
order to defend their shaky stability. At the end they will finish as
Mac, in order to make an "idiot-proof" OS (being safe even for one
Brooke Shields or Woody Alan), and will be, due to this, dearly
expensive of course (and with plenty of not so documented features
working behind user's back). They will have to call service to change
from HTML mail to plaint text one.

> So I think I'll stick with what's working for me at present, and not
> take risks that could require reinstalling things that are working
> reasonably well right now, since I've got a lot of commitments with
> work to do and am short on help here, so I really don't have time to
> do things over, particularly when it's unnecessary.

Yes, such things require indeed bell of a lot time and the people who
really do something in their life hardly would get some for running
after just any "new feature" around.

> IOW, if I change over to Vista, I'll upgrade TB! then.

Unfortunately I'll have to scrutinize this OS too, wishing this pleasure
or not, as I had with XP(ee), since I have to "be in touch" with MS
"products", even if and when I don't use them myself a lot (cooperators,
clients and similar).

> The main advantage to using windows is the tremendous amount of third
> party software, shareware and freeware available.

Indeed. It is still so. Linux is good for some more specialized, and
"safer", more stable, work, but plenty of that is still in the area of
Windows, including indeed fantastic games, for instance, but some other
quite useful software too.

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