Hi, Mischa,

On 6/26/2012 3:17 AM, Mischa Dohler wrote:
> Joe,
>
> With your replies you achieve the following:
> 1) doubling our email traffic on issues we are even less interested in;

I send those only when a poster repeatedly ignores feedback, both as 
negative feedback to them and to inform the list that we're giving this 
feedback (which many have asked, FWIW).

> 2) making us actually read the CFP which otherwise we would not have
> read (and thus giving an incredible marketing boost to these events).

You don't need to read the CFP; that's your decision. If the post is 
from me in response to a CFP post, you already know you can ignore it.

> I understand your rational but I think we should look for a more
> pragmatic solution. I have a proposition:
>
> Create a separate mailing list [email protected] with
> exactly the same members of TCCC where all CFPs have to go (with a less
> strict policy) and where all members have the right to opt out if not
> interested. Anybody who posts a CFP thereafter to tccc@... will
> automatically be removed from the tccc list. The TCCC list will then be
> used for technical discussions, announcements of TC meetings, etc.

We have discussed this many times. If you believe people will follow 
directions, it's easy to automatically filter received email with "CFP" 
in the title. The problem is that nobody follows the rules - if they 
did, I wouldn't need to make such posts like the response before.

[email protected] is unfortunately too well known as a place to 
send CFPs - even ones that have nothing to do with computing at all.

We are planning to move to the ComSoc email servers, at which point our 
current address will change, and that will help for a while. Regardless, 
the place where CFPs are posted will always require some amount of 
monitoring.

Joe (TCCC Chair)
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