Maybe Sean is right that the warning should be written differently, but
winter is winter unless you're interested in avoiding responsibility for
your own ignorance of the outdoors.

Can you tell I'm passionate about this subject? I've been on search and
rescue teams, been a pilot, boater, and ski patroller, and I spend a lot of
time outdoors. Nature doesn't play games with semantics. You have to respect
the outdoors or it can kill you.

Yes, the guy did stay with his vehicle for some time and eventually left for
help. Yes, he was probably desparate. Even then, you still have to make good
decisions. The question is, who was better off--the ones who stayed in the
car or the one who went for help? What option provides your best chance for
survival? As a dad, I'd have a struggle keeping myself in the car. I'd want
to do something to save my family and I would have to work hard in that
situation to convince myself the best thing I could do would be to stay put.
But, it doesn't matter how long you're there. Your chances of being spotted
and rescued are best if you're in the car. Slogging through snow without
proper gear WILL wear you down. If you have a specific destination where you
know you can get help, that might be one thing. Trudging through several
miles of snow in hopes of stumbling across help is a bad idea.



Thomas Johnson
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brierley, Sean
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TCP] CNET Editor Death Caused by a
TechnicalCommunicationMistake?

Well, some thoughts:

1) It is not yet winter. So any warning about winter would not be
applicable, right? Perhaps a better warning is, "This route closed
beginning with the first snowfall," or something similar.
2) Staying with the vehicle is a great idea. In this case, I believe the
guy did stay with the vehicle for quite a number of days, considering
the food situation, and only in desparation struck out to find help. 

Cheers,

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Milan Davidovic
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 9:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TCP] CNET Editor Death Caused by a Technical
CommunicationMistake?

On 12/7/06, Bonnie Granat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The 2005-2007 state
> highway map distributed by the Oregon Department of Transportation has

> a warning in red print, inside a red box: "This route closed in 
> winter." A Rand-McNally map did not have a similar warning.

I'd only call it a "mistake" if R-M had intended to put the warning in
but didn't. I would agree that R-M would better serve the market by
including this information.

And not to put any blame on the family, but how many people examine a
map before buying it to see whether it includes the types of information
they need?


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