On 21 Aug 2014, at 18:10, Joe Touch <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> 
> On 8/21/2014 8:47 AM, Brian Trammell wrote:
>> hi Joe, all,
>> 
>> okay, I'm convinced for passive FTP (and s/FTP/active-mode FTP/g in
>> myprevious message).
>> 
>> Now the problem would remain -- how, in an interfaceless
>> environment, can the tcpinc machinery tell passive from active FTP in
>> advance?
> 
> Why would it want/need to, any more than IPsec over UDP would?

... ah, right, because the subsequent passive-mode connection would Just Work. 
(Please forgive my rustiness with FTP; I honestly don't know whether I've used 
it directly this century.)

> However, a SYN issued from port 20 would tell you it's active.
> 
>> One possible approach here would be to detect a failed
>> active FTP transaction, then rely on the application to try again and
>> remember to disable itself for the second attempt (kind of like
>> Valery's option 4, but with fallback).
> 
> FTP users already know to try passive mode FTP, AFAICT.

Yep... if this is the case, then there's no problem here.

Cheers,

Brian

>> Of course this leads to the type of implementation complexity I was
>> hoping to avoid through deprecation. I still think any pressure we can
>> exert to speed active-mode FTP's retirement is effort better spent than
>> effort building fiddly bits into tcpinc (Valery's option 6) for this
>> corner case.
> 
> There's no need tor retire anything. You can just recommend that the default 
> is to use passive mode if you want, though.
> 
> Joe
> 
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