Stephen Farrell <[email protected]> writes:

> On 21/07/15 09:48, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>> I'm not concerned about the level of effort; I'm concerned about having
>> multiple normative references for the same protocol.
>
> Right. I don't want to risk complicating the TLS1.3 effort, esp for a
> draft we don't even know will be adopted.

But supposing the self-contained profile description is not normative?

I'll grant you that two normative descriptions of TLS are a bad idea.
At the same time, if it's impossible to produce a concise non-normative
description of what TCP-use-TLS looks like on the wire, then some of us
believe that's a disadvantage for TCP-use-TLS, or at least evidence that
the "minimal profile" is not sufficiently minimal.

Additionally, should the wire description of TCP-use-TLS reveal any
vulnerabilities, that will complicate the TLS1.3 effort, but the
complication would consist of necessary bug fixes.

David

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