Chris, You do demonstrate the existence of numerous real worlds. Yet I don't understand why you keep responding top the wrong post. What would you do when a student insists on answering the wrong question? Well you can't stay in ht big show for long if you throw to the wrong base. :-)
Chris Scheitle wrote: > Comic relief? I found your post rather amusing, so I'm glad you found > humor in mine. Del, your point about testing and the lecture model is > well taken...but it was well taken the first time you said it....not > the 100th. "not the 100th.?" So much for your interest in accurate data. You are the kind of sloppy thinker that in my undergraduate days we would send to the showers.... Is this an exercise denial? Lecture hall model In many of the higher ed classrooms in Pa and Nj you are evaluated on lecturing skills. I have received many private posts that are likely from other areas that have the same situation..... lecture or forget about another contract. When I have reviewed ed proposals they nearly all are based on the lecture hall model. You may lucky and teach in a school like my kids went to. They had small classes 8 to 12 students. What data do you have to suggest that the lecture hall model is decreasing in main. Publishers reps tell me they have been asked to include more lecture guides. > It is very frustrating for me and I am sure others (since I > am not the first to raise this issue with you I know this is the case) > to have someone ask a very serious question that they want advice on > and all you throw out are the same comments that are so vague that they > aren't helpful in any concrete way. > You would be less frustrated if you read the post and header you responded to..... if you had included it as per etiquette we would all would have known what you were talking about and you could have seen your error. Again your use of data not accurate. My responses to Tina have been specific. > Since you like to speak of testing so much...what evidence do you have > that lecture based classes are the cause of all that is wrong with the > world (since you imply this frequently)? I have never claimed that the lecture hall model is the cause of all that is wrong... I will post a more complete assessment soon. > It seems to me that college > courses are significantly more "tested" Can you supply evidence that college courses are as you claim significantly tested? > and much less lecture based > than they were in the past. Maybe the problems you refer to are caused > by the decline of the lecture\"preacher" model. I have spoken with > many exchange students from Europe who find our "participatory" > classrooms (i.e. anti-lecture based) rather silly because they are used > to purely lecture formats where discussion\activities\etc are not used. > Does this mean that European education is in the toilet? > > In short, I'm sorry if others don't agree with me (and I know Del > doesn't), but I signed on this morning and another round of the > "lecture\preacher" cliches just sent me over the edge. I'll keep it to > myself for now on. > > Chris > Del > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Teaching Sociology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/teachsoc -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
