The use of fiction in the classroom is not the friend of science.
Sarah Murray wrote:
Del...
I have absolutely no idea how to
test or prove any of this! But I will ask my students if they believe
the characters in the film were the targets of violence (or thought
they could be) because they were homosexual, or because of rural
homophobia, and the students can give me their ideas. A
couple are religious, and from cultures not open to homosexuality, so
I'm sure I'll get a variety of responses.
If we have no idea how to test a proposition that should raise a red
flag.
When you ask your students to believe you become a
teacher/preacher..... not the way to expose the student to the best
science.... you are asking them
to adopt your opinion........ and you are grading them..... you are
in a position of power...... They may agree with you but have learned
what? This may be
why the church has been more successful
Rural homophobia? Don't sociologists find that the locus of the
behavior is the situation and not feelings?
"Consequently, every time that a social phenomenon is directly
explained by psychological phenomenon, we may
be sure that the explanation is false "(Durkheim, Rules of the
Sociological Method 1964 p.104) Why not use a social explanation?
When black people were lynched, was
the cause race or racism? How could you ever test or prove the answer
to that?
President TR.... an ardent sociologist claimed that blacks were lynched
because they so often raped white women. We are we are
often told...... a nation of laws..... race is the law........ see
Goffman civil inattention....... what happened to Emmett Till was the
removal of civil inattention, as a visitor he did not know the
rules. As I stated in an earlier post..... the race definition that
dominates
in this nation and in the sociology texts was designed to support Va
Slave law.....
Maybe it is time for a change
Del
Sarah
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Tuesday, September 19, 2006 9:32 PM
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TEACHSOC: Re: Crash?
Sarah,
I expect that a basic goal for/of learning is a sociology class would
be testable and the best available science. Church Consequently, every
time that a social phenomenon is directly explained by psychological
phenomenon, we may be sure that the explanation is false (Durkheim,
1964 p.104)
groups are faith based and
use a different standard.... that is why I used the terms convince and
leads to...... Can you provide a reliable measure of homophobia and
evidence that
homophobia causes infidelity or violence...... How do you explain
domestic violence in heterosexual households?
Del
Sarah Murray wrote:
What I'm hoping my students will
learn from the film is that homophobia causes infidelity and violence
-- not that homosexuality does.
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Sent:
Saturday, September 16, 2006 10:19 PM
Subject:
TEACHSOC: Re: Crash?
Locally, church groups have used Brokeback Mountain to convince teens
that the gay lifestyle is evil.... leads to violence and
infidelity....they solve the so what issue by having teens work for
candidates promoting anti gay legislation.... They report
the film is quite effective... They are not concerned by the science
or the fact that these are commercial works of fiction. As you know
B Mountain was designed as a chick flick ....... but it may have had
other more powerful messages that producers will not admit to.
Del
Melanie E. L. Bush wrote:
The issue I am referring to is not that the film is
inflammatory but that it reinforces racism by levelling out the impact
of white supremacy on whites and peoples of color.
For example.. where's the film that shows the
differential approach to incarceration that is being discussed on this
listserve?
To address racism as solely prejudice or stereotype as
the film primarily does provides some relief to some who believe that
"everybody's a little bit racist" - it's just world we live in - and if
they are "nice" and don't engage overtly racist language or ideas
they need not be overly concerned ... though it is highly offensive to
many who face constant reminder of the structural and ideological
consequences.
ahhhh this is precisely the subject of Breaking the
Code of Good Intentions: Everyday Forms of Whiteness...
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