> > I refactored https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project_management_tools
I added iceScrum ( http://www.icescrum.org/en/ ) to the list. It is Opensource and it has automatic charts, and the basics to support scrum. I used it in a former company (about 2 years ago) but I didn't made such an intensive use as with Mingle today, so I cannot provide an accurate comparison Pau On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Erik Moeller <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Steven Walling <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Does this mean we get to hire an internal tools team someday? :) > > Absolutely, we will get to hire an internal tools team someday. > Someday is a nicely relative agile time estimate - maybe I'll give you > a burndown chart to go along with it. ;-) > > In seriousness, I think the tooling problem is very tricky, and a > "tools team" isn't necessarily the answer. My worry would be that they > immediately take on a very large problem (like creating our own agile > PM tool), which then becomes their only development/maintenance > responsibility. > > Distributing the load among other orgs that have the same problem > would be ideal. At the same time, the development of tools with a > beautiful user experience and a clear product vision tends to benefit > from a significant degree of integrated resourcing and leadership. For > a very ambitious project like a solid alternative to > Mingle/Trello/Pivotal/..., this might be a case where a joint > investment by e.g. Wikimedia+Mozilla in a third party org could be a > better way to bootstrap something than in-house development. > > For less ambitious projects (like experimenting with existing > Bugzilla-based solutions), the combination of more engineering > staffing overall + careful choices where we prioritize effort will > hopefully enable us to make steady progress. > > Erik > -- > Erik Möller > VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation > > _______________________________________________ > teampractices mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/teampractices > -- Pau Giner Interaction Designer Wikimedia Foundation
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