On 19 February 2015 at 23:47, Erik Moeller <[email protected]> wrote:
> I propose a "Roadmap" project in Phabricator. Tasks in this project would > be typically epics with rough anticipated calendar-level delivery dates and > clear, understandable task descriptions. > > Tasks would be arranged on a Phabricator workboard like so: > > January 2015: Features > January 2015: Platform > January 2015: Apps > February 2015: Features > February 2015: Platform > February 2015: Apps > etc. > > This could ultimately replace some of the detail in the on-wiki goals > pages, and ensure we have a single calendar type view into expected > deliverables. We could iteratively move our work into this new format if it > works. > > If we play our cards right, we can reduce duplication and bring the > roadmap and goalsetting "closer to the metal" so to speak. > > Thoughts? If we try this, any guinea pigs? Or feel free to point me to a > much more sophisticated version of this idea :) > I'm willing to try this, to replace the existing on-wiki VisualEditor roadmap https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Roadmap. It has some advantages: - As a Wikimedia user, I now have a single view of all changes which could impact me. - As a Wikimedia user, I now don't have to have a mental model of what tasks are which teams' responsibilities. - As a product manager, I now can more trivially free-lance on bigger-picture issues which touch lots of teams' responsibilities and none without duplicating others' work. It has some downsides from a user perspective, though: - As a user who cares about a specific outcome in VisualEditor, I no longer have detailed "blocked because of Xyz" explanations around the outcome in which I'm interested. - As a Wikimedia user who cares about editing tools, I no longer have somewhere to keep track of bigger planned changes to editing things, and have to pick them out of other changes to e.g. Apps or Search which I don't care about. - As a non-Wikimedia MediaWiki sysadmin who wants to upgrade VisualEditor-MediaWiki locally, I no longer get a view - As a non-MediaWiki developer who uses VisualEditor, I no longer can see planned long-term changes in one place and it's more difficult for me to find somewhere to lobby for changes. Also, the VisualEditor roadmap explicitly doesn't use dates, as it cover speculative ideas of several person-decades worth of work that may never happen. I'm not sure where we'd put things like that, even if (per Gilles) we show a board based on quarters. Finally, ideally the apps/features/platform changes would be vertically separated in a grid rather than repeating quarterly columns, but I know that Phabricator doesn't support that (yet). Worth trying out, though. J. -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, Editing Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. [email protected] | @jdforrester
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