I think I'd also add that there is an interest in not having the Cloud be
too attractive or too high profile for anyone to try to take it over before
all the legal arrangements are in place to allow it to stand on its own two
feet.

jim

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:16 PM, MIKE KUNZ <mk...@kahoks.org> wrote:

>  Thanks Abe,
>
> I know there has been a lot of time and effort put into this project and I
> for one hope that it succeeds and prospers.
>
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> >>> Abe Loveless <li...@lovelesscentral.org> 9/21/2010 3:04 PM >>>
>
> [ Hopefully someone will step in, if I talk out of turn here.  There are
> others that have been more involved than me.  That darn day job keeps
> getting in the way. ]
>
>
> I've been on a couple of conference calls (and I've missed a few), but
> here is a slightly more detailed recap of what Tobin just said:
>
> - The POC still exists.  There are schools and entities with data in the
> cloud.  Our start-up equipment still exists, and is still running.
> Without the federal funding, we won't be able to ramp up the bandwidth
> at one of our datacenters quite as soon as we had hoped.  So, that does
> hinder somewhat the number of services coming out of that site.
>
> - We are moving forward with the creation of a new entity/Coop.  The
> administration of the IlliniCloud needs to be a living/breathing entity,
> not reliant upon the whims of a parent organization (school, agency,
> etc.)  So, the group has gathered example documentation from various
> CO-OP organizations, including the Cooperating School Districts
> organization that is very active in MO.  And, they have been holding
> meetings/conference calls with various folks attempting to put it
> together.  Vicki DeWitt vdew...@lth5.k12.il.us would be happy to answer
> any questions about this aspect of the project.
>
> - The original group of organizers is still highly involved.  In fact,
> the group has morphed into a preliminary advisory council and several
> new members have been added to the group.
>
> - Basically, the technology is ready to roll.  We're a little light on
> some bandwidth, but the equipment is in place.  As usual, we have to
> wait on the business side of things.  We can't very well move the
> technology forward, until we can take in money.  And, it can't take in
> money until there is an entity to take it in.
>
> - As for SaaS issues... there was some talk with Learn360 and Discovery
> Education about hosting their content in the cloud.  Discovery was not
> as interested in providing discounts as we had hoped they would have
> been.  There were also a lot of talks with folks at Zimbra to provide
> enterprise e-mail.  Unfortunately, in the end, their prices weren't as
> attractive as we originally thought either.  I believe at least 1 SIS
> vendor has contacted us to discuss co-hosting their product in the
> cloud.  BUT, before any of these kinds of agreements can be made...
> there has to be an entity created to make the agreement.
>
> Hopefully, that helps a bit.  I'll try to answer any other questions
> that you may have.  We all feel your pain and uncertainty, caused by the
> lack of communication.  It isn't because there isn't anything being
> done.  It's mostly because there isn't a lot to report.  We're working
> on paperwork now.  It was going to have to be done, anyway.  But, we
> were hoping we would have had more funding to pay for more help to make
> it go faster.  :)
>
> Thanks,
> Abe
>
>
>
> On 9/21/2010 1:52 PM, Dan Ragen wrote:
> > They should give us some news so we don't give up on it.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Brian Tobin<brian.to...@dist428.org>
> wrote:
> >> I'll chime in with my limited input.  The cloud is alive and kicking.
> The group/board is working on things such as membership, connectivity,
> services.....
> >>
> >> Brian Tobin
> >> DeKalb Community Unit School District 428
> >> 901 s 4th st
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> >> We...I haven't heard anything for a long time, I suspect if anything
> >> was to be said it would have been by now on t he
> >> state f the cloud.  The complete silence is not a good sign.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Michael Bendorf<bendo...@a-ccentral.us>
> wrote:
> >>> How is the POC going?
> >>> I don't expect anything too official, but how does the loss of RTTT
> funds
> >>> factor?
> >>> When should districts not in the POC hope to maybe get into the cloud?
> >>>
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