The new e-rate rules do not mandate that if our Internet access is paid for
by e-rate that we MUST give access to the public.

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Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Public Wireless access policy

At some point we need to understand and realize that we are not in a 
corporation but we are a public service institution paid for by public 
money.  With the proliferation of wireless devices - and wait until 
Christmas this year when almost EVERYONE will have either a smartphone 
or some kind of wireless Internet device - the public will expect to 
have access when they attend school events.  We can't just hid behind 
our conservative, staff-only, policies.  We need to adjust with the 
times and give the public what is expected.  Even USAC realizes this now 
with their new rule changes which allow public access to school networks 
paid for by E-Rate funds.  (Be sure you understand those rules before 
giving public access to E-Rate funded Internet.  At this time we don't 
use E-Rate to pay for our Internet so we are not governed by those rules 
even though our public access does fall under the new rules' scope.) 

Heath Henderson wrote:
> We have a similar stance but have to allow people such as tri county
special ed doing IEP work and visiting student teachers etc on at some
> Point.  I don't like it but really what is stopping them from jacking into
a port on the network and getting physical access that way. Lesser of the
unhook of a cable is easier for me to deal with.
>
> -Heath Henderson
>
> On Oct 21, 2010, at 7:17 AM, Dan Ragen <dera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> While I don't have a District wide or School wide wireless system the
>> access points i do have a re for
>> District personnel only.  I think that you may run into trouble
>> letting others in.  Think of it this way, Would you let
>> some one in on one of your desktops?  I usually take a very
>> conservative approach to this type of situation.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Michael T. Bendorf
>> <bendo...@a-ccentral.us> wrote:
>>     
>>> Now that my wireless is installed (last AP fired up this afternoon) I
have
>>> had requests for the password to get on.
>>> I have not provided that to anyone, but rather explained that things
were
>>> not ready for public access yet...
>>> All of my district owned equipment has the PSK and can connect as though
>>> they are hard wired...but I wonder what other districts do for public
>>> access. For instance I had a student from the neighboring district want
to
>>> get online here to do some homework before practice (we co-op with this
>>> other school.) I really felt bad saying not yet - but that is the truth
of
>>> it.
>>> We have an active directory and we push out browser proxy settings via
GPO.
>>> Everyone must firs sign our current AUP and then they must authenticate
with
>>> our CIPAFilter before egressing to the Internet. I want to provide "the
>>> public" access to a filtered Internet experience. I do not want visiting
>>> mobile devices to access anything other than the public Internet. This
seems
>>> pretty strightforward, but something I have not set up before.
>>> Even more than just the config of my HP ProCurve MSM APs/Controller my
real
>>> question is how do you address this from a policy point of view? Do you
have
>>> a separate document? Do you ask guests to sign something? Click on
>>> something? Is it part of your general AUP? etc?.?.?.
>>>
>>> --Michael T. Bendorf--
>>> Technology Administrator
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>>>
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for
>>> others.
>>>
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using
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>>
>> -- 
>> Daniel E. Ragen
>> District Technology Coordinator
>> Dupo CUSD 196
>> 600 Louisa Ave
>> Dupo, IL 62239
>> Phone - 618-286-3214 x2141
>> dra...@dupo.stclair.k12.il.us
>>
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