On Friday 30 June 2006 11:08, Colin Davis wrote: > > > > Huh ? How comes you can't update using the auto-updater ? Why do you > > think we are releasing time-delayed self-mandatory builds ? > > > > The Time-delayed builds aren't enough! > I understand you want to encourage people to upgrade, but it's not > worth breaking them off from the network if they don't. That > alienates users, and makes it more likely they'll just drop freenet > entirely. > > I think that a compromise, such as prioritizing any other requests, > resulting in degraded performance, etc, is a much better idea. > If you don't like that, what about a different compromise? > > Keep in mind our audience- If someone needs to publish an anonymous > message, and Freenet is no longer willing to talk to his node, he's > now stopped entirely. > > > > > > The problem is that not-up-to-date nodes AREN'T using the auto- > > updater. > > And for nodes wich were off during the delay period, 'too bad' for > > them > > :p ... > > That's the difference- I don't want to screw the users, even if it > helps the network. I understand it's an alpha, but your attitude is > dangerous. If we can accomplish the same objective of not hurting the > network by giving them slow connections, rather than ending their > connections, we're better off. > > I care about the people who use Freenet, and want to make things > better for them. > > > > What we need is update-over mandatory support. > > https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=434 > > Forgive me if I've misunderstood, but are you really arguing for > mandatory updating? If you make updating automatically mandatory, I > cannot use freenet any longer. Most people I know feel the same way. > Most slashdotters will agree. > Keep in mind, Freenet is a project for people who like their privacy- > Those people don't take well to automatically running software on > their PC. > > I understand the reason you think auto-updating is the solution, but > I think Mandatory builds are the problem. > > That is user-hostile behavior- Essentially "Upgrade, or we won't let > you talk to anyone who has." > That's Microsoft-style thinking ;)
I might be tempted to agree with you if 0.7 was not alpha. The bugs found can easily be serious enough to really affect the the workability of freenet. We now have auto update. So timed mandatory builds make a lot of sense. Thanks Ed
