On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 07:11:31PM -0400, Ken Snider wrote:
> Matthew Toseland wrote:
> >I believe that it is expedient, provided that we get a significant
> >movement from opennet to darknet. I am not yet sure how we will ensure
> >that; increased security may be enough, but everyone knows (wrongly but
> >instinctively) that opennet is more secure, so ...
> 
> I think you'll need some form of "incentive" to be on darknet. And security 
> may not be enough, especially if people don't perceive the opennet to be 
> less secure.
> 
> I personally would prefer to *never* advertise my noderef anywhere, either 
> internal or external to freenet. But most people just want their node to be 
> fast, and rely on freenet's umpteen other securities and the hope that 
> plausible deny-ability will keep them out of hot water.

Unfortunately freenet's umpteen other securities don't stand up to their
hype, at least, not before premix routing. :(
> 
> Unfortunately, the only incentives I can think of come in terms of 
> crippling opennet in some way: Preferred routing to darknet nodes, 
> bandwidth tokens that are handed out twice as fast to darknet nodes, etc., 
> and I doubt that's the way to go, especially since it would almost 
> certainly lead to iFreed/Ubernode style pseudo-darknet networks in the long 
> run, to overcome said limitations.

Preferentially routing requests FROM darknet nodes is sensible; you
trust your friends more than random guys on the street. This can of
course be modulated by a per-peer trust setting.

And then there are gimmicks - local sharing of bookmarks, indexes,
files, local IMing, etc.
> 
> --Ken.
-- 
Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org
Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/
ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.
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