On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 07:32:51 -0700, Bruce wrote in message 
<[email protected]>:

> I do tell companies whose products are subject to resale that they
> need to keep source online long-term.

..they don't need to, under the GPL's.  I agree this is wise, though.
 
> But we can't keep them from going out of business, and we can't
> protect ourselves from various kinds of ignorance and worse. 

..hint ideas: "No source code with resold cars has no impact on 
resale value?"  Easily extendable to "Anyone who sells his 4 year 
old Caddilac without source code loses his license to Linux!!!". 
"And that again, has no impact on initial sales???" ;o) 
"I'll chk back with the Toyota guys again..." etc. ;oD  

> So, it is a good idea for an archive to be operated of all
> redistributable source we can find.

..hear, hear. :o)

> Ralph Corderoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Bruce Perens wrote:
> >> If they implement the process I explained in the previous email on
> >> this topic, all parties can be in compliance.
> >
> >Unlike many bits of shiny technical equipment, a car still has a
> >useful life after three years and can be re-sold on.  If I acquire a
> >four-year-old Cadillac, the "at least three years" requirement of
> >3(b) would have been met and I might not be able to obtain source.
> >
> >Given software's spread into longer-living commodities, some form of
> >archiving seems to keep popping up as a future need.
> >
> >Cheers, Ralph.
> 


-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.

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