Sense of scale would probably have been a smart thing to mention!

Relatively smallish operation in traffic terms at the moment, <10Mb/sec bandwidth most of the time, It seems like even the entry level load balancers are capable of 1Gbps. I think we're seeing about 40 -50reqs/sec at peak, more if we're being scraped. Something like 60 sites behind 2 VIPs, mostly on 1, sites are Tomcat instances hosted on 4 servers. I need lots of overhead for site growth though, we create and deploy new applications on a regular basis. Most of the sites use SSL to a fair extent due to the nature of the content, so SSL termination is a must as far as I'm concerned, I want to keep that as close to the edge as possible. No point wasting horsepower on servers inside the network if it's not necessary! IPv6 would be pretty much essential now. We're not doing it currently but aim to be doing so in < 6 months at the edge, preferably less!

Zeus used to do hardware load-balancers, it looks from their site that they've gone down the all-software route which I find an interesting step. I guess it plays into the "cloud" thing quite well. If it's easy to set up and performs well I see no reason to ditch our existing servers that we use for load-balancing. Must admit I may be slightly blinkered in that I fairly quickly dismissed the idea of software load balancing from a vendor and was focussing a bit more on physical appliances.

Paul


On 11/14/2010 2:17 PM, Alexei Rodriguez wrote:
As with everything, it all depends on what you are looking for. Not all vendors have implemented the same feature the same ways.

For example, we have a product at $WORK which needs to use the same IP from the VIP as the SNAT; some products assume that VIPs are inbound IP only and that you would use another set of IP addresses for outbound connections.

Different products have different limitations; bandwidth is usually not the first wall you hit. If your needs are relatively modest (a few dozen VIPs, SSL termination, L4-7) then any of these products should be able to do what you need.

However, if you want additional features (such as global traffic management, IPv6 support, advanced load balancing algorithms, custom rules or health checks), then you will need to make sure you detail your requirements and hit each vendor up for these.

We have recently been testing different solutions (to make sure we are really getting the best bang for our buck and keeping up with our evolving requirements); among the platforms tested:

* F5: this is the current default in our shop. We use the GTM & LTM features. We have had a couple of bumps along the road, but these just work. The VM version is worth considering if you already have an existing VM infrastructure and don't need significant throughput (>1Gbps)

* A10: from the Foundry lineage, but very affordable. Includes LTM/GTM functionality with the base license (nice). VM version is supposedly coming soon.

* Zeus: software only (you provide the HW), but it is high performance. On modern Intel hardware it can do some serious SSL termination in software. Definitely worth a look.

Thankfully this technology has matured, so few of the vendors would be "risky" in terms of stability and performance.

Alexei


On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Nicholas Tang <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    We've a Citrix Netscaler shop, and we've had good luck with them.
    They're not perfect, by any means, but they've treated us pretty well
    over the years.  Before that we used Cisco Arrowpoints and prior to
    that F5's.  We just upgraded our Netscalers, so we're still happy
    customers.  ;)

    Nicholas

    On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Paul Graydon
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    > Hi all,
    >
    > We're looking at going down a hardware route for load balancers, and
    > looking for an HA solution.
    >
    > Does anyone have any recommendations or scare stories?  I'm not
    so much
    > interested in what great and wonderful things the spec sheet says it
    > does compared to real world behaviour.
    >
    > Currently on the list for investigation are F5, Kemp Technologies,
    > Citrix NetScalers, Foundry (Brocade now?).  I've experience with the
    > latter two, netscalers I was a bit "meh" about, they had a few show
    > stopping bugs at the time but that could well have changed.
     Having an
    > HA pair die one after the other because they didn't like a
    particular
    > TCP header makes for a fun morning!  The BigIron's I've dealt
    with all
    > had a number of little quirks, whilst being thoroughly reliable.
    >
    > Paul
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