Guys, we have a number of homegrown applications (C and even some
Fortran). Lots of Java of course much like everybody else these days.
I am counting on RPC being compatible. Lots of custom printing
configurations (I am assuming printing will not be an issue between
32/64). From what I am hearing it looks like I may want to get a 64
Bit backbone (server hardware/OS) but still run in compat mode for a
while (32 BIT binaries). I know this may sound dumb but any problems
with Java? I am expecting the path of least resistance on this item
but you never know so I am asking :)

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:23 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, Brad Knowles wrote:
>
>> on 3/16/09 11:20 PM, [email protected] said:
>>
>>>> It depends on what you're doing.  Some applications have not yet been
>>>> ported to 64-bit, and may not run correctly on a machine that has a
>>>> 64-bit kernel.  Other applications may run better in 64-bit mode.  You
>>>> need to know your specific application.
>>>
>>> do you have any specific examples? the last usespace program that I ran
>>> into with this sort of bug was the ipchains binary, and that was fixed
>>> several years ago.
>>
>> I've heard of no end of problems with precompiled binaries provided by
>> vendors for things like Flash, Nvidia drivers, etc....
>
> using a 32 bit flash as a plugin to a 64 bit browser is an issue. that issue
> ended up getting resolved by people figuring out that you could use
> ndiswrapper to run flash (and several distros do this by default now). this
> doesn't make flash stable (does anything??), but it does mean that when
> flash locks up it doesn't crash the browser, so you can do a graceful exit
> when you want to.
>
> there is a 64 bit flash in alpha status right now. I'm running it on my
> laptop and it crashes once in a while, taking the browser down with it. I'm
> not sure it's a win, but I'm continuing to run it to be a beta-tester and
> encourage Adobe to support linux better.
>
> java brwser plugins are in a similar situation, but are not quite as bad.
> Sun has a 64 bit java in beta. it's a but ugly to get setup as a plugin, but
> seems far more stable.
>
>
> as for nVidia, binary drivers are a nightmare in any case, they are distro
> and kernel version specific, and they tie in directly to the kernel address
> space. don't try to use them with any kernel they weren't directly tested
> with (and this includes not using them with an distro kernel update if they
> weren't made specificly for that update).
>
>> Admittedly, that's a more workstation-oriented issue as opposed to a
>> server problem, but it's certainly a valid class that may be of potential
>> concern. And anywhere else you've got a pre-compiled binary you have to deal
>> with, is a potential source of problems.
>
> I'm not trying to say that you don't have valid concerns, but I have been
> running 32 bit code on 64 bit kernels for quite a while (both server and
> workstation), including in high-volume production settings (the vendor
> hadn't gotten around to releasing a 64 bit version yet), and I have found
> things to be very reliable.
>
> if you are going to have problems, I would expect to see them in things that
> try to muck directly with the kernel (CD burning software, userspace device
> drivers, etc. things that are linux-only, and frequently version and/or
> distro specific). applications that are portable across platforms give me no
> problems, even demanding applications like databases
>
> David Lang
>



-- 
Paul

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