I'll second the -1 on Confluence.
No section editing was a big beef by our users.
Our MediaWiki based wiki - with added WYSIWYG editir and LDAP authentication - 
grew faster and more widely receieved, despite a top down push for the 
Confluence one.




----- Original Message ----
> From: Daniel Rich <[email protected]>
> To: Nick Silkey <[email protected]>
> Cc: David Parter <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> Sent: Thu, April 29, 2010 8:54:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [lopsa-tech] help us pick a wiki to support for our faculty and 
> students
> 
> I'll second dokuwiki, although it does store everything in text files. 
With 
> the right plugins you can make it do all sorts of things, including
adding a 
> wysiwyg editor, mirroring the format of other wikis (such as
mediawiki), and 
> integrating with google calendars.  I've been using it
for the past year 
> or so with the non-profit theatre I webmaster for, and
we've had great luck 
> with it.  I looked at MediaWiki, TWiki, Oddmuse (we
used it at work in 
> the past), and a few other even lesser-known wikis
before settling on 
> dokuwiki.

That said, I'm surprised by the recommendations for 
> Confluence.  We use
it at work, and pretty-much universally hate 
> it.  There are all sorts of
reasons, ranging from unstable code to 
> performance issues to being
restricted to a flat page name paradigm within a 
> given namespace (i.e.
if you have an "SysAdmin" name space, you can have one 
> and only one page
titled "Monitoring"). .

Take a look at 
> wikimatrix.org, it's a great way to compare a lot of the
wikis out there 
> based on the features you are looking for.

Nick Silkey 
> wrote:
>
> The answer to all four tenets is Confluence. Federates 
> nicely with how
> things work in higher-ed.
>
>> On Apr 27, 
> 2010 3:57 PM, "David Parter" <
> href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]
>> 
> <mailto:
> href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]>> 
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I know, there are a million to choose 
> from.
>>
>> Here's the 
> situation:
>>
>>  Our faculty (and students) want wikis. 
> And they would like us to
>>  support their wikis. They haven't 
> exactly said what that means, but we
>>  can at least define a 
> plausible service offering, and see if that
>>  
> works.
>>
>>  Currently we have a ton of different wikis, 
> all in a state of
>>  disrepair/not being maintained or secure, 
> installed by individual
>>  faculty and students. We want to do 
> better. We *need* to do better.
>>
>> Some things we already 
> know:
>>
>> 1) We think we want a wiki that stores content in 
> a database, because it
>>   decouples the content from the wiki 
> code, makes migration and
>>   upgrades easier, and doesn't rely 
> on the unix file system and which
>>   uid the web server runs as 
> for security. But that maybe a misguided
>>  
> idea...
>>
>> 2) There needs to be some kind of authentication 
> and authorization. This
>>   is where it gets hard -- we don't 
> have to solve every problem with
>>   the same tool, but some of 
> our users just need a handful of wiki
>>   users, so built-in 
> authentication & authorization is ok. some
>>   probably want 
> to leverage our existing authentication (for example,
>>   to 
> allow all their students' access) but that may be ok to defer to 
> a
>>   different solution.
>>
>>   All 
> probably want both authenticated and anonymous users to be 
> able
>>   to read the wiki (but not post).
>>
>> 
> 3) If we have to maintain/support the wiki code, we'd like it to 
> be
>>   secure and reasonable to manage.
>>
>> 
> 4) they don't all have to be in the same wiki instance, we can 
> run
>>   multiple instances
>>
>> Any ideas? I 
> realize this is not an entirely well-formed request, the
>> staff 
> person who has been looking into this is rather frustrated, so I
>> 
> thought I'd get some fresh ideas.
>>
>> 
> thanks,
>>
>>  --david
>>
>> ps: the 
> same exact questions will be asked about "blogs", because some
>> 
> people think a wiki is the way to maintain a web site, others prefer
>> 
> blogs...
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