On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:25:39AM +0200, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
> On 11/27/2012 09:03 AM, Claudio Jeker wrote:
> >On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 05:36:20PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >>>>If there are desires to improve this (I hear Naddy grumbling!) then the
> >>>>stomach to break backwards compat must be present, or suggestions on how
> >>>>to do it without breaking backwards compat must be suggested.
> >>>My suggestion is two-fold:
> >>>
> >>>* Introduce a new format.  This new format will ignore # comments,
> >>>  call ! commands, but otherwise pass on everything unchanged to
> >>>  ifconfig.  I'm neutral on the matter of retaining "dhcp" and
> >>>  "rtsol" as shortcuts for "!dhclient \$if" and "!rtsol \$if".
> >>>
> >>>* To maintain backward compatibility, retain the old parsing for
> >>>  hostname.* files.  Interface configuration files in the new format
> >>>  will have a different name; if.* or whatever.
> >>>
> >>>Does that sound workable?
> >>Not really.  The netbsd experiment with ifconfig file format does
> >>not appear to have been a success.
> >>
> >>reason why? ifconfig has a really crummy argument parser, with all
> >>sorts of side effects. hostname.* files were supposed to isolate
> >>people from some of those nasty effects.
> >>
> >>stated simply, it would not have helped Paul.  He would have made
> >>the same mistake.
> >>
> >Plus some interface changes need multiple ifconfig commands and a specific
> >order to work. I think there is no way to express complex interface
> >configurations without having an order in which the operations are done.
> >Sure it is possible to throw the ordering all into netstart but I think
> >that is not helpful.
> >
> hostname.if is exactly what I dislike in all OpenBSD. I think the
> whole concept of it is leading to errors and misunderstanding. The
> very design is flawed. What I do right after the first boot is:
> mv /etc/netstart /etc/netstart.dist
> rm -f /etc/hostname.*
> and then vi /etc/netstart, inserting the plain ifconfigs, routes,
> call of clients etc.
> that way i have full control over network configuration.

IIRC Edd Barrett has an idea to create ifconfid - a daemon which would
setup networking on OpenBSD.

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=130450257324306&w=2#1

jirib

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