On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:25:39AM +0200, Gregory Edigarov wrote: > On 11/27/2012 09:03 AM, Claudio Jeker wrote: > >On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 05:36:20PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: > >>>>If there are desires to improve this (I hear Naddy grumbling!) then the > >>>>stomach to break backwards compat must be present, or suggestions on how > >>>>to do it without breaking backwards compat must be suggested. > >>>My suggestion is two-fold: > >>> > >>>* Introduce a new format. This new format will ignore # comments, > >>> call ! commands, but otherwise pass on everything unchanged to > >>> ifconfig. I'm neutral on the matter of retaining "dhcp" and > >>> "rtsol" as shortcuts for "!dhclient \$if" and "!rtsol \$if". > >>> > >>>* To maintain backward compatibility, retain the old parsing for > >>> hostname.* files. Interface configuration files in the new format > >>> will have a different name; if.* or whatever. > >>> > >>>Does that sound workable? > >>Not really. The netbsd experiment with ifconfig file format does > >>not appear to have been a success. > >> > >>reason why? ifconfig has a really crummy argument parser, with all > >>sorts of side effects. hostname.* files were supposed to isolate > >>people from some of those nasty effects. > >> > >>stated simply, it would not have helped Paul. He would have made > >>the same mistake. > >> > >Plus some interface changes need multiple ifconfig commands and a specific > >order to work. I think there is no way to express complex interface > >configurations without having an order in which the operations are done. > >Sure it is possible to throw the ordering all into netstart but I think > >that is not helpful. > > > hostname.if is exactly what I dislike in all OpenBSD. I think the > whole concept of it is leading to errors and misunderstanding. The > very design is flawed. What I do right after the first boot is: > mv /etc/netstart /etc/netstart.dist > rm -f /etc/hostname.* > and then vi /etc/netstart, inserting the plain ifconfigs, routes, > call of clients etc. > that way i have full control over network configuration.
IIRC Edd Barrett has an idea to create ifconfid - a daemon which would setup networking on OpenBSD. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=130450257324306&w=2#1 jirib