On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Ted Unangst <t...@tedunangst.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:13, Mark Kettenis wrote:
>>> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 05:20:27 -0400
>>> From: Ted Unangst <t...@tedunangst.com>
>>>
>>> These isa devs are already disabled and not particularly popular among
>>> our users.  affected: tcic, sea, wds, eg, el
>>
>> The reason these devices are disabled is probably that their probe
>> routines are destructive.  So the fact that they are disabled doesn't
>> necessarily mean that they don't work properly.
>>
>> I don't think maintaining these drivers is currently a huge burden on
>> us.  But decoupling them from the build will almost certainly lead to
>> some degree of bitrot.
>
> Perfection is achieved when there's nothing left to take away. :)
>
> It's not so much that we spend time maintaining the source, but I do
> spend time compiling it. And I have to download it (3 times!) every
> time I install a new snapshot. Cumulatively, I've probably spent hours
> of my life waiting for these drivers' bits to go from here to there. I
> will selfishly claim that if I save five minutes of time this year by
> not compiling these files, that right there is more benefit than
> retaining support.
>
> I targeted disabled devices figuring they were least likely to be
> missed, but I honestly question the utility of any of these ISA
> network and SCSI drivers. They're going to be slow as shit. Besides,
> at this point, due to adding so many new drivers (kernel size has
> more than doubled in last ten years) the minimum RAM requirement is
> basically past ISA only machines. The segment of machines that lack
> PCI but support 32M or more of RAM is very narrow. And unlike sparc or
> vax, I don't think running OpenBSD on some ancient 486 is historically
> interesting.
>

I still run OpenBSD as a wireless AP on a pentium-1 166Mhz with 48Mb RAM, and
3 PCI cards. ISA sound card was removed :-)



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