Hello, 

[email protected] (Stuart Henderson), 2014.03.06 (Thu) 16:42 (CET):
> On 2014/03/06 08:32, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > > > > I'd like to ask.  Does anyone find it useful?  It is not in sync with 
> > > > > the
> > > > > packages beside it.
> > > > >
> > > I thought the packages are being build from the ports tree or am I wrong?
> > 
> > So I can make a tar file available.  At a particular moment in time.
> > 
> > But the package builts are not done in an instant; far from that, especially
> > on slower machines.
> > 
> > So read what I said again.  They're not in sync.
> > 
> 
> I think the main use for the tar files is for people who are behind a
> restrictive firewall that they can't ssh through to use anoncvs (though
> there are anoncvs servers which run on alternative ports which is often
> good enough to get around this).
> 
> They might also be a bit quicker to fetch in bulk than a cvs checkout,
> which doesn't stream particularly well over slow net for lots of small
> files.
> 
> Personally I'd keep them for releases (which also gives people a base
> to speed up updates to -current) but probably drop them for snapshots..

Without having write permissions here: I like the idea. 

[email protected] (Theo de Raadt), 2014.03.06 (Thu) 15:56 (CET):
> > is there a reason, why there is no ports.tar.gz in the latest snapshot 
> > folder?
> At present, it is not being built in the ftp area any more.
> I'd like to ask.  Does anyone find it useful?  It is not in sync with the
> packages beside it.

Useful yes, needed, no.
One of the major drawbacks of running -current to me is that the
apropriate downloadable packages are only available shortly. After that
you need the apropriate ports tree to install further packages from
there. 
My future procedure: a) install snapshot, b) get latest release ports
tarball, c) extract, d) cvs up, e) leave as is until next snapshot
install.

[email protected] (Gregor Best), 2014.03.06 (Thu) 17:16 (CET):
> On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 07:56:14AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > [...]
> > I'd like to ask.  Does anyone find it useful?  It is not in sync with the
> > packages beside it.
> > [...]
> In the past, I found the tarball quite useful to jump start the ports
> tree on my local machine. I'd extract it and then use CVS to update it
> to the repository, because that's usually a lot faster than doing the
> entire checkout from CVS.

So then you could still get yourself the -release tarball and cvs update
from there, don't you?

Bye, Marcus

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