On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 22:49:50 +0200
shun.obsd.t...@dropcut.net wrote:

> Hi Maxime,
> Hi Sam,
> 
> I have been following this thread (and others) for some time.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 09:55:21PM +0200, Maxime Villard wrote:
> > Well, I guess I'll have to admit that I find your attitude extremely
> > disrespectful.
> I have to agree that the emails are rather short and tend to lack the
> subtle cues of human face-to-face interaction. They can easily get
> out of hand.
> 
I'd like to agree with the sentiment here and in the rest of the mail.
The lack of body language and tone can result in misunderstandings. I
wasn't trying to be disrespectful.

It's very easy to pile on a person's comment on the internet.

It feels wasteful to develop a seemingly comprehensive and modular code
scanner which will inherently find heaps of bugs, and then not release
it or allow others to work with it.

I am of course grateful that Maxime and others report bugs, but it
feels unusual to me that it's acceptable for somebody to consistently
be able to find them with a tool, and yet nobody thinks it'd be a good
idea to have that tool shared if Maxime is willing.

As many here have acknowledged, Maxime's reports are a contribution. So
why not seek to have those contributions continue? _That_ was my point,
though it was poorly conveyed, falsely appearing to be sarcasm.

> 
> > Le 21/07/2015 12:31, sam a écrit :
> > >On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:31:44 +0200
> > >Maxime Villard <m...@m00nbsd.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >>Found by The Brainy Code Scanner.
> > >>
> > >>It is not the last bug Brainy has found, but it is the last one I
> > >>report. I don't have time for that.
> > >>
> > >
> > >How about you release the Brainy Code Scanner then?
> Maxime, I have to agree with Sam here. I did check your website, but
> have not found any code there. It would be of great help if you would
> release it.
> 
> > >"I have so many bugs; in fact, there are so many, I don't even
> > >have the time to report them! My scanner is so good!"
> > >
> > >Or perhaps you should report 'just' the relatively important ones?
> > 
> > I think my work does (or used to) benefit to a lot of users,
> > developers and vendors here; a lot of people, including you.
> Sam, I think Maxime has done good work so far. There is no reason to
> mock the work or the person. I thought the motto is "Shut Up and
> Hack!" and not "Ridicule and Hack!".
> 
> > Nobody supports my work, and I've never asked for anything here
> > about that. Even though I almost never receive a simple "thank you"
> > for all the bugs and vulnerabilities I've so far reported, I still
> > expect a "spiritual thank you" for my work.
> Yes, this is a common problem. Hence: Thank you Maxime! Thank you for
> all the bugs you (and Brainy) have found so far.
> 
> 
> > Developing, improving and maintaining Brainy takes time and energy,
> > as well as investigating and packaging the bugs and vulnerabilities
> > it finds.
> You could share that burden. I am willing to give it a shot.
> 
> shun
> 

regards,
sam

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