Hello all, thanks Mark for bringing up your view on this. I must say I was quite surprised to read it, so far I thought we all had a fairly identical defintion of what the partner archive is.
Mark Shuttleworth [2012-01-29 15:49 +0000]: > Some of the applications that are important to that whole ecosystem may > not be redistributed. Partner serves as the vehicle to make those > available on Ubuntu. Rather than going down the road of seeking to > marginalize Canonical's role, with prejudicial language like "(secret) > commercial agreements", please recognise that this is precisely the > point of building a project which has both community and commercial > teams working together. I think that mixes together two different things. I didn't hear anyone saying that they don't appreciate Canonical's efforts in making popular commercial software like Skype or VMWare player easily available for Ubuntu. I personally believe that if Ubuntu wants to be successful, we absolutely have to make it super-easy to get this software, because a lot of people depend on them. And our software-center does just that. But "for" Ubuntu, and making it easy to get it "on" Ubuntu is IMHO not the same as "being Ubuntu". http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu itself stresses that it is a free operating system, partner is not on *.ubuntu.com, it is not packaged by the same set of people, has its own, radically different, sets of policies and procedures, etc. So I agree it could be considered as part of the "Ubuntu movement" and the efforts of builing an OS which people want, i. e. a "selling point". But at least for me as in my role of Ubuntu developer it's even further apart than e. g. PPAs. (But again, distance in maintenance policy is unrelated to its utility.) > Our goal is to offer a platform that combines those values with > access (easy but optional) to the full range of what's possible on > Linux. I fully agree to this. But that doesn't mean that everythign that runs on Ubuntu instantly becomes part of the platform. To the contrary, I think we need to go even further in making easier for people to run their sofware on Ubuntu without having to get it into Ubuntu. The success of e. g. the Android Market shows that quite nicely, I think, as well as our inability to keep even the current archive in a really good condition. Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt | http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org)
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