Thanks for your replies Robie and Steve and for providing insights for
the teams you are representing.
The details provided do show that some of those issues are being worked
on which reassuring.
I do feel like one of the core problems hasn't been addressed in the
replies though so I'm going to go back to it bellow.
Le 14/06/2023 à 20:51, Steve Langasek a écrit :
Seb has put himself forward as a candidate for the Release Team on behalf of
the Desktop Team, and I welcome this. We just have to get our current
candidates through the queue (Utkarsh, CPC; Paride, QA) before we can
actually start the process of onboarding him.
While it's good to hear the release team is considering my application
now, it doesn't clear one of the problem I raised in my original email
The question of whether the release was wanting to consider my
application is one that was asked first in 2021 (around the time Laney
left the Canonical desktop team). Until now I never really get a clear
reply telling me if I was being/would be considered and if there was a
queue of other applications and the time it could take. It's not even
clear to me when the team started considering my application. Was it
back in 2021? Were Paride/Utkarsh in the queue before that? Or was it
discarded to be reconsidered now?
The question was asked a few times on #ubuntu-release but also also in
private cross team meetings over the pasts. The replies were around of
the line of 'it would make sense probably' but never when further.
I had a similar experience with the SRU team a few years ago. At a time
where I felt like the team was struggling with reviews and that we
making them busy with desktop review I asked if it would help if I was
joining to review non desktop upload (and free some time from other
reviews to help getting our desktop items reviewed). I remember
discussing it in person at a Canonical event with Lukasz in Frankfurt in
2020 who said that it sounded like worth considering, I was never able
to get an answer about that one either.
The issue isn't about those specific cases though, but I think they can
serves as an example.
If we have someone active in the project who sees a need and want to
help, believing they have the needed skills/time/energy, shouldn't they
be able to move toward that goal without ending up hitting an invisible
wall? Don't they deserve to be told that they have been heard and get a
'yes/no/maybe/we need to discuss/you need to improve those points'?
If we have people with the skills and motivation who want to step up
that way they must be valuable to the project. Do we want to risk seeing
them getting demotivated or leave?
Do we want to be seen as an inclusive project where contributors have a
fair chance to play a key role one day?
Cheers,
Sébastien
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